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Please add wands in in alphabetical order, there are rumors about a pine wand too...<br>
It seems, though the wands are named differently, they all have the same use, which is [[zapping]] stuff.

==How long is three days?==
#two rollovers (cf ascension length)
#three rollovers
#difference in date of two days (cf Easter)
#difference in date of three days
#72 hours --[[User:Evilkolbot|Evilkolbot]] 12:11, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

The page on [[Rollover]] says that it is three rollovers. --[[User:Campboy|Campboy]] 19:03, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Blasted my wand Monday at 5:00PM.  Got new dead mimic within an hour.  Used dead mimic Thursday at 1:00AM.  Got new wand.  Seems "open-and-shut" case to me! --[[User:Maharito|maharito]] 00:35, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

== Wands reset at rollover ==

If you don't blow your wand up in one go it seems that they reset at rollover. I zapped about 5 times over 2 days, and my wand didn't blow up yet. It will blow up if I use it once more today, so I'll try it tomorrow. Can anyone else confirm this? --[[User:Exd3ath|Exd3ath]] 13:43, 8 December 2005 (Central Standard Time)

Edit: Confirmed :)

== Different Symbol? ==

It seems to me that the dead mimic object should be '%' rather than 'm'.  In NetHack, corpses are consideded food, which are represented by %.  Showing it as m implies that it's still alive.  [[User:Stubblyhead|Stubblyhead]] 22:55, 9 December 2005 (Central Standard Time)
:*That would be something to take up with Jick, not the wiki. The wiki brings images over directly from the game. -[[User:Der Zilla|Zilly]] 22:57, 9 December 2005 (Central Standard Time)
:*No kidding.  The point of the discussion tab is to discuss, no?  I just wanted to hear what other people thought about the matter.
:*I would think that since this mimic is a usable item it wouldn't have the symbol for food.  --[[User:Treefrog|Treefrog]] 18:00, 20 April 2008 (CDT)

==NS-13==

I'd heard rumors of being able to replace a destroyed wand after this point. Has anyone tested this yet? --[[User:Sparksol|Sparksol]] 04:12, 27 June 2007 (CDT)
== Zap it! ==

Is there any possible way, short of extreme hacking KoL to zap this, like taking advantage of lag or manually putting in a URL? Just wondering... --[[User:Co678|Co678]] 23:51, 25 December 2006 (CST)

== No longer a one-time ==

It seems dead mimic is no longer a one-time drop. When I have a wand of polymorph, I get quite many potions after using dead mimic:

You open the chest. There's all kinds of stuff inside it:
	{{acquire|item=murky potion}}
	{{acquire|item=cloudy potion}}
	{{acquire|item=dark potion}}
	{{acquire|item=cloudy potion}}
	{{acquire|item=murky potion}}
	{{acquire|item=swirly potion}}
	{{acquire|item=bubbly potion}}
	{{acquire|item=smoky potion}}
	{{acquire|item=fizzy potion}}
	{{acquire|item=effervescent potion}}
	{{acquire|item=swirly potion}}
	{{acquire|item=swirly potion}}
	{{acquire|item=fizzy potion}}
	{{acquire|item=ring of aggravate monster}}
--[[User:Laurynasl|Laurynasl]] 15:11, 16 April 2008 (CDT)

Edited to add: I found this as well... with two different dead mimics.  Received an assortment of potions per the above as well as a ring of cold resistance and a ring of fire resistance (one ring per mimic it seems)--[[User:Djswim|Djswim]] 15:16, 16 April 2008 (CDT)

I had both of my dead mimics that i opened today turn up 11 bang potions and 1 ring of fire resistance.  perhaps it isnt all that random? or did the RNG feel like messing with me.  --[[User:Lord of ants|<font color="green">LoA</font>]] 16:51, 18 April 2008 (CDT) it appears to have been messing with me on chest three i got 11 bang potions and a cold resistance ring.  --[[User:Lord of ants|<font color="green">LoA</font>]] 16:53, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

10 bang potions and one Yendorian ring:
* You acquire an item: milky potion
* You acquire an item: fizzy potion
* You acquire an item: bubbly potion
* You acquire an item: bubbly potion
* You acquire an item: dark potion
* You acquire an item: swirly potion
* You acquire an item: fizzy potion
* You acquire an item: dark potion
* You acquire an item: cloudy potion
* You acquire an item: effervescent potion
* You acquire an item: ring of gain strength
--[[User:Pastangum|Pastangum]] 23:53, 27 April 2008 (CDT)

Since Pastangum got 10, and I got 14:
* (You acquire an item: effervescent potion
* You acquire an item: smoky potion
* You acquire an item: dark potion
* You acquire an item: fizzy potion
* You acquire an item: swirly potion
* You acquire an item: effervescent potion
* You acquire an item: murky potion
* You acquire an item: fizzy potion
* You acquire an item: fizzy potion
* You acquire an item: swirly potion
* You acquire an item: effervescent potion
* You acquire an item: murky potion
* You acquire an item: effervescent potion
* You acquire an item: smoky potion
* You acquire an item: ring of gain strength)
I'm going to increase the range to 10-14: Though I suspect 15 is also possible.
--[[User:Unnatural20|Unnatural20]] 00:24, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

*You acquire an item: fizzy potion
*You acquire an item: swirly potion
*You acquire an item: dark potion
*You acquire an item: murky potion
*You acquire an item: swirly potion
*You acquire an item: swirly potion
*You acquire an item: effervescent potion
*You acquire an item: swirly potion
*You acquire an item: fizzy potion
*You acquire an item: murky potion
*You acquire an item: cloudy potion
*You acquire an item: dark potion
*You acquire an item: bubbly potion
*You acquire an item: ring of conflict
Got 13 potions total, only 7 of the 9 possible types.  Now that the mimic has this second use, we should look at the frequency of appearance of the store adventure. Is it just a regular noncombat now (doubtful), or is on a counter? (That would be my guess.) --[[User:Prestige|Prestige]] 10:53, 28 April 2008 (CDT)
*I got two in about two or three adventures, so it's probably not a counter. The question to address would seem to be superlikely versus regular. --[[User:Bagatelle|Bagatelle]] 16:28, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

*You acquire an item: murky potion
*You acquire an item: smoky potion
*You acquire an item: bubbly potion
*You acquire an item: smoky potion
*You acquire an item: murky potion
*You acquire an item: cloudy potion
*You acquire an item: effervescent potion
*You acquire an item: dark potion
*You acquire an item: milky potion
*You acquire an item: bubbly potion
*You acquire an item: bubbly potion
*You acquire an item: swirly potion
*You acquire an item: fizzy potion
*You acquire an item: ring of conflict
I don't know if the number of potions is still being spaded, but the page asks for it.
--[[User:Chawmp|Chawmp]] 10:09, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== Ring of Teleportation ==

Can anyone confirm that it's a possible drop? I've used around 120 mimics total since it's been added, with no luck. --[[User:BlanketThief|BlanketThief]] 19:34, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
*[http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php?title=Dead_mimic&diff=395869&oldid=378611 See page history.] --Bagatelle<sup>[[User talk:Bagatelle|T]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Bagatelle|C]]</sub> 22:02, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Even so, up to 140 total now with no ring, seems like a bit high for RNG swing --[[User:BlanketThief|BlanketThief]] 05:25, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

+7 more, still no luck.--[[User:BlanketThief|BlanketThief]] 05:26, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
* Assuming that each ring has an equal probability of appearing, then there is a 12.5% chance per mimic that you will get a ring of teleportation.  Alternatively, there is an 87.5% chance that you will NOT get one.  The probability of NOT getting one 147 times in a row is: 0.875^147 = 2.98*10^-9, or 0.000000298%.  So yes, I would say that you can safely assume that you cannot get a ring of teleportation from a dead mimic. --[[User:MindlessGames|MindlessGames]] 07:05, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I've actually had it drop from the dead mimic. Not sure why BlanketThief hasn't encountered one yet.--[[User:Foggy|Foggy]] 14:13, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
*Perhaps a recent change SNAFU'd it? I've only been using mimics since October or so I would guess. Only other thing I can think of is that it checks to see if you have a ring of teleportation already (Zapped for it) --[[User:BlanketThief|BlanketThief]] 16:33, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
**Edit: Looking at the page history dates, a recent change is probably not the culprit =/

+6 more, still no luck. --[[User:BlanketThief|BlanketThief]] 05:21, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, I've quit farming the DoD so I won't exactly be posting any successes (Or more failures) here. {{unsigned|BlanketThief|05:49, 5 November 2009}}

I lied, +18 more (171 total now). No luck. Going to closet the one I zapped for, if anybody has any other suggestions for a possible conditional, feel free to add your input. --[[User:BlanketThief|BlanketThief]] 06:28, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

+6 mimic, ring is in display case. No luck. --[[User:BlanketThief|BlanketThief]] 16:52, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

+7, no luck. --[[User:BlanketThief|BlanketThief]] 05:38, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

+8, no luck. --[[User:BlanketThief|BlanketThief]] 17:15, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

*Just used 11 on a character with now RoT-- nothing yet. I'll be farming up more mimics later and also trying it on a character who's never been in the DoD. --[[User:TechSmurf|TechSmurf]] 03:31, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Been away for a few days, +9, no luck. --[[User:BlanketThief|BlanketThief]] 03:04, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

+21, no ring. --[[User:BlanketThief|BlanketThief]] 01:57, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

+35, no ring. 86 total since closeting the ring, pretty much done with the DoD so I won't be adding anymore data-points. --[[User:BlanketThief|BlanketThief]] 06:30, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

+31 more without a ring (Same ascension as previous attempts.) Incase anybody was still interested --[[User:BlanketThief|BlanketThief]] 01:10, 17 March 2010 (UTC)