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==Miscellaneous==
This page seems to have gotten too big for its britches, so I've pruned a lot of things from the page. --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 02:05, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

==To be spaded==

*What is this guy's arena strength?
:Found this on one of the standard pages for determining arena combat choices.  Added to the article.  --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 17:34, 28 October 2007 (CDT)
*Determining the percentages of food stealing, and if the resulting increase in fullness of GGG is exactly what it would be if fed to him normally.
*Are the "hunger indicators" in the main entry truly hunger indicators?  How much remaining fullness do the trigger at?  (See Hunger section below)
*Are the inaction messages (rifling through the desert cart, et al.) indicative of anything?
*Does the [[Got Milk]] effect increase the attack yield from consumed food, much as [[Ode to Booze]] increases the [[Spirit Hobo]]'s attack yield from consumed booze?  --[[User:Mighty Xerxes|Mighty Xerxes]] 09:50, 8 February 2008 (CST)
**Milk has no effect.--[[User:QuantumNightmare|QuantumNightmare]] 23:39, 4 March 2008 (CST)
*Do you get the keys out of key lime pies - would make save boozer/teetot characters running the dungeon for the keys

==References==

Obviously, there are many ghostbusters references, including the picture - ThisisCarl

This reference: "This familiar also references Green Glutton Ghosts, which are a fixture of any number of roguelike computer games." seems a bit bogus. The roguelike games do have those, but they are clearly Ghostbuster references. KoL isn't referencing the roguelikes, it is going to the original. --{{User:Club/sig}} 14:03, 2 October 2007 (CDT)

I suspect this may also reference The Green Ghost game of the late 1960s (which may have been re-released in the late '90s). --[[User:LdySaphyre|LdySaphyre]] 09:45, 12 October 2007 (CDT)

The food consumption message: "Crumbs fly everywhere as <name> scarfs down the <food>." is prossibly a reference to Cookie Monster from Sesame Street. [[User:FauxReal|FauxReal]] 05:10, 22 June 2008 (CDT)

==Feeding==

Using remote form submission to have the ghost attempt to eat an NPC item you have results in "<name> snubs his nose at your offering of a <item>." Does that belong in the article somewhere? --[[User:Ricket|Ricket]] 17:03, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
:Yes.  I'll add it.  --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 11:43, 7 October 2007 (CDT)

I got this message upon killing a lesser fruit golem: "Jimmie rubs his stomach and looks hungrily for something to eat. Before you can stop him, he grabs a lemon and stuffs it into his gaping ghostly maw." So apparently he DOES eat lemons. Also, has anyone else seen this message? maybe it only appears when he's very hungry? (mine was) --[[User:Stzein|Stzein]] 10:34, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

It seems that the Ghost autofeeds the stuff that are sold in stores. I've seen it eat a tomato successfully after a fight with the possessed can of tomatoes. --[[User:Zekashis|Zekashis]] 09:57, 12 October 2007 (CDT)

==Hunger==
I've observed my ghost giving all of the messages in the original entry, and afterwards giving me MP without having been fed any further.  So there wouldn't seem to be a definitive "is now empty" message amongst them.  Needs some more definitive data, though; it hasn't been my goal to spade these out this run.  --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 02:05, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

There are actually two end-of-combat messages that display when the ghost is completely empty: one about him showing green gums and one about drool leaking from the corners of his mouth.  I suspect they were added after the Starfish-like threshhold was lowered to 1 since I got my ghost just after that.  --unsigned comment added by [[User:JoseCurevo|JoseCuervo]]
:Ah, yes, you're right, I hadn't realized those messages weren't even in the main entry yet.  I just assumed they were.  I haven't verified for myself if these are definitely "is now empty" messages, but there are definitely a couple of messages missing from the entry right now.  If I'm not beaten to the punch, I'll add them when next I see them.  --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 17:23, 28 October 2007 (CDT)

==Super Stench Attack==

Much of this is covered in the forum post linked to in the entry.  I doubt the change to the minimum fullness counter affected this ability, but if anyone notices a discrepancy bring it up.  --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 02:05, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

Data from my NS stunt--belch damage:
[http://narya.lenharth.org/~philipl/KoL/NS/] 
*254538
*174375
*85478
*39626
*15770
*11332
*5735
*2034
*1269
*527
*276
*Ascended
--[[User:DarthDud|DarthDud]] 13:40, 11 April 2008 (CDT)

=== Belch attack used against tower monsters? ===

I'm wondering if it would be plausible to get a whole bunch of good food, fill your ghost of to the brim, and use it's belch as a way to take out the tower monsters? i realize theres only been 1 guy thats done that so far, but would this give the theoretical possibility to do that relativly easily?[[User:Funny snake 100|Funny snake 100]] 21:46, 22 October 2007 (CDT)

So far, we've seen values around a thousand, maybe 2000 from a waay full ghost. The amount of food it would take to make the ghost deal 10000+ damage is just staggering. It'd probably take 20-30K adventures worth of food. That's something like a THOUSAND Hi Mein. Hey, if you've got 6 Million meat to blow and about a day you're willing to waste pressing the "feed" button 1000 times, be my guest. --[[User:Wildfire393|Wildfire393]] 00:55, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

A more cost effective method would be 3 tiered wedding cakes. 35k adventures for 1 million.
--[[User:Pikawss|Pikawss]] 21:40, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

* Does the ghost eat wedding cakes?  Its an NPC food, so my guess is that it does not. Nice try though --[[User:Anmbia|Anmbia]] 06:49, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

*My mistake. Missed that part of the mechanic. Didn't realize NPC foods were disallowed.
--[[User:Pikawss|Pikawss]] 02:17, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

IstariAsuka/Darthdud has done just that, my friend [http://narya.lenharth.org/~philipl/KoL/NS/NS_DeadSansWand_3.jpg] --[[User:Rentsy|Rentsy]] 02:45, 14 March 2008 (CDT)

== Messages and Bib ==

So after playing with this familiar for some time, and using cocoa eggshell fragments to feed it, I found that in fact, some of the statements regarding messages were not true:
* At 100 or fewer charges, the familiar either displays messages about trying to steal food or swooping through your opponent. This is akin to the hit/miss combat paradigm for other familiars.
* The threshold for stench attack is less than 110, but greater than 100. (I got the attack at 109.)
* I've carefully counted now five times and the growls message begins with fewer than 20 charges, as do the drooling/needs food badly message. They just occur in different places.
* The plastic bib increases the number of charges by an unknown amount. So far, I've seen 6 charges for 5 adventures worth of food, 66 for 50, and 13 for 10. It implies that there is a 20-30% increase in charges, but more needs to be tested.--[[User:Foggy|Foggy]] 15:33, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

==Pie man was not meant to eat?==
I'm pondering this since the Spookyraven revamp I need a second opinion: Does the [[Pie man was not meant to eat]] deserve a special mentioning here? I'm not eager to add every tiny little thing on every wiki page with some relevance or give much of a shopping advice, but the pie seems almost as if it was ''made'' to fuel this familiar... --[[User:Yatsufusa|Yatsufusa]] ([[User talk:Yatsufusa|talk]]) 00:51, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Even though I don't have this familiar, I'd wondered about using the pie to feed it myself (and whether the pie was specifically blacklisted somehow).  So I'd vote for including a mention of it.  --[[User:Xande|Xande]] ([[User talk:Xande|talk]]) 18:58, 30 November 2014 (UTC)