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So, it's a hobo for food? - LSK
==Miscellaneous==
This page seems to have gotten too big for its britches, so I've pruned a lot of things from the page. --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 02:05, 27 October 2007 (CDT)


Obviously, there are many ghostbusters references, including the picture - ThisisCarl
==To be spaded==


This reference: "This familiar also references Green Glutton Ghosts, which are a fixture of any number of roguelike computer games." seems a bit bogus. The roguelike games do have those, but they are clearly Ghostbuster references. KoL isn't referencing the roguelikes, it is going to the original. --{{User:Club/sig}} 14:03, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
*What is this guy's arena strength?
:Found this on one of the standard pages for determining arena combat choices.  Added to the article.  --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 17:34, 28 October 2007 (CDT)
*Determining the percentages of food stealing, and if the resulting increase in fullness of GGG is exactly what it would be if fed to him normally.
*Are the "hunger indicators" in the main entry truly hunger indicators?  How much remaining fullness do the trigger at?  (See Hunger section below)
*Are the inaction messages (rifling through the desert cart, et al.) indicative of anything?
*Does the [[Got Milk]] effect increase the attack yield from consumed food, much as [[Ode to Booze]] increases the [[Spirit Hobo]]'s attack yield from consumed booze?  --[[User:Mighty Xerxes|Mighty Xerxes]] 09:50, 8 February 2008 (CST)
**Milk has no effect.--[[User:QuantumNightmare|QuantumNightmare]] 23:39, 4 March 2008 (CST)
*Do you get the keys out of key lime pies - would make save boozer/teetot characters running the dungeon for the keys


== Feeding ==
==References==


From just a very small amount of testing, it seems keeping the ghost fed requires a lot... I fed it a goat cheese pizza, 5 hot wings, a ghuol egg, 2 chocolate egg fragments and got 4 or 5 adventures of "fed". Before them, i fed it toast and a Spam Witch sammich which gave me the normal "needs food" messages in combat.--[[User:Casie|Casie]] 00:06, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
Obviously, there are many ghostbusters references, including the picture - ThisisCarl


Is it possible that the feeding amount depends on fullness, rather than quality? That would explain the high amount of food you needed- almost everything you fed him was 1 fullness. Try feeding him a mind flayer corpse.--[[User:DaemonStryker|DaemonStryker]] 00:23, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
This reference: "This familiar also references Green Glutton Ghosts, which are a fixture of any number of roguelike computer games." seems a bit bogus. The roguelike games do have those, but they are clearly Ghostbuster references. KoL isn't referencing the roguelikes, it is going to the original. --{{User:Club/sig}} 14:03, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
 
*Actually I forgot to list it, I fed him 2 mind flayer corpses in that long list of stuff above... --[[User:Casie|Casie]] 21:57, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
 
Someone should feed it a Three-tiered wedding cake.  --[[User:The KoW|The KoW]] 01:02, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
 
* You can't feed it a 3-tiered cake.  --[[User:Suraimu|sl1me]] 01:10, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
 
* This seems pretty fair, considering. If this thing works anything like the Spirit Hobo, then fullness of an item determines how many starfish attacks it gets. A readily available 35 fullness item would be pretty broken with that.
Hm... wonder if they're gonna do a spleen version next year ;) --[[User:Wildfire393|Wildfire393]] 01:16, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
 
(Speculation about diff message removed and added to main page; it's just a message that hadn't been added to main page.  And yes, the reference below is the namesake of my ghost ^_^)
--[[User:Laerjael|Laerjael]] 01:58, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
 
kobayashi is the japanese guy that always won nathan's hot dog eating contest up until this year.  he's probably the most famous competitive eater in the world. --[[User:ValmonUni|ValmonUni]] 02:02, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
 
=== Fullness lasts for # of actions instead of # of turns? ===
 
One Brimstone Chicken Sandwich seems to last for a varying # of turns, but I get 3 instances of getting MP for each Brimstone Chicken Sandwich, then the ghost is hungry again. If I get those 3 MP loads in one turn, then I get a 'hungry' message.  If it takes 3 turns to get 3 MP loads, then the GGG fullness seems to last that long. Two Brimstone Chicken Sandwiches last for 6 MP loads.
 
The 'dessert cart' and 'floating to trash can' messages appear to be inaction messages, indicating that the GGG didn't do anything.  [[User:ColtsScore|ColtsScore]] 04:00, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
 
Brimstone Chicken Sandwich
- fullness = 3
- MP loads = 3 <BR>
Three carob chunks
- fullness = 3
- MP loads = 3 <BR>
Dwarf Bread
- fullness = 3
- MP loads = 3 <BR>
Cherry Pie
- fullness = 3
- MP loads = 11 Hmmmm. <BR>
Bowl of Bounty-Os
- fullness = 3
- MP loads = 20 [[User:ColtsScore|ColtsScore]] 04:37, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
 
I get a feeling that the number of MP shots is determined by a combination of fullness as well as quality? --[[User:Sephiroth559|Sephiroth559]] 06:40, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
 
Certainly seems so, I specifically waited until after the friars to feed my ghost some reagent pasta.  2 Hell Ramen gave me 50 actions over the next 80 or so turns, the damage at 30 to 33 pounds buffed weight ranged from 12 to 30 with a random distribution, no sign of the damage dropping as fullness dropped.  Perhaps actions are added in a similar fashion to adventures gained by eating the same food item? --[[User:Dannyboy|Dannyboy]] 00:33, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== To add to notes at bottom of article if it changes ==
I'm getting my familiar's name on all the messages except one.
It says .. "GGG floats over to a nearby trash can and rifles through it looking for food. Guess he's not picky".
My GGG isn't named "GGG".  If they change it, I guess we should add that to the special notes. [[User:ColtsScore|ColtsScore]] 04:25, 1 October 2007 (CDT)


I've found out that you cannot feed it an orange. Any speculations on why this is? --[[User:Garglius|Garglius]] 05:39, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
I suspect this may also reference The Green Ghost game of the late 1960s (which may have been re-released in the late '90s). --[[User:LdySaphyre|LdySaphyre]] 09:45, 12 October 2007 (CDT)


I found there isn't a feed-to-ghost option for maple syrup, which isn't NPC available. Perhaps it's because maple syrup restores HP/MP?
The food consumption message: "Crumbs fly everywhere as <name> scarfs down the <food>." is prossibly a reference to Cookie Monster from Sesame Street. [[User:FauxReal|FauxReal]] 05:10, 22 June 2008 (CDT)
Also, I got the same "GGG floats over to a nearby trash can..." message as above.
-- [[User:Octopodey|Octopodey]] 07:40, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
*If that's so, I bet it's a bug due to [[maple syrup]] having a "chug" link rather than "eat" or "drink".--[[User:Toper|Toper]] 16:08, 1 October 2007 (CDT)


Taken along with the refusal to eat three-tiered wedding cake, and having heard from the forum that the thing ''will'' eat 150 mindflayer corpses, I'm guessing it has no fullness limit, but is instead limited by simply refusing to eat anything that can be purchased from an NPC. --[[User:ShaggyShaggs|ShaggyShaggs]] 06:09, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
==Feeding==


Using remote form submission to have the ghost attempt to eat an NPC item you have results in "<name> snubs his nose at your offering of a <item>." Does that belong in the article somewhere? --[[User:Ricket|Ricket]] 17:03, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
Using remote form submission to have the ghost attempt to eat an NPC item you have results in "<name> snubs his nose at your offering of a <item>." Does that belong in the article somewhere? --[[User:Ricket|Ricket]] 17:03, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
:Yes.  I'll add it.  --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 11:43, 7 October 2007 (CDT)


has anyone tried using milk of mag. or munchies pills? ode works with the hobo.  i assume milk will work the same --[[User:Jpg 420|Jpg 420]] 11:36, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
I got this message upon killing a lesser fruit golem: "Jimmie rubs his stomach and looks hungrily for something to eat. Before you can stop him, he grabs a lemon and stuffs it into his gaping ghostly maw." So apparently he DOES eat lemons. Also, has anyone else seen this message? maybe it only appears when he's very hungry? (mine was) --[[User:Stzein|Stzein]] 10:34, 9 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== Possible plus food drops? ==
The combat messages when it's fed seem to indicate it can find food. If it's not fed where it will restore MP, it will give you different messages than the ones such as "digging through the garbage" or "He sees a desert tray". Perhaps when he's fed he also adds plus food drops?
 
Obviously, there are many ghostbusters references, including the picture - ThisisCarl
 
== Food thief? ==
 
The message "<name> swoops through the air, catching a <food> in his mouth before it hits the ground. Before the <food> hits the ground, that is. Not his mouth." was recently added to the page, which sounds like the ghost may eat food at drop time, not at all unlike the [[O.A.F.]]'s tendency to autosell stuff. It would probably be wise to either put this guy away or thoroughly feed him before adventuring in the [[Goatlet]]... --{{User:Quietust/sig}} 10:37, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
 
Test runs in the DoD makes me believe that when he steals food, the chance that he will steal again decreases. Anyone confirm this? --[[User:Devion|Devion]] 11:10, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
 
If the ghost only steals food when not currently 'fed,' then future thefts would be less likely, simply because he may not be hungry yet.
As an aside, if the food charge is stored similar to the hobo's, food theft might actually allow ghost emulators - comma chameleons and (eventually) doppelshifters - to charge up.--[[User:JoetheRat|JoetheRat]] 14:10, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
 
 
Could you clarify "Charging up"? I have a chameleon, and am interested in what you have to say.
--[[User:Shademaster00|Shademaster00]] 20:30, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
* The GGG & Spirit Hobo need to be fueled up with consumables (charged up) to do their starfish trick. Normally, you couldn't do that directly with a Hobo-chameleon or doppel-hobo - but they can use the charges if you had the actual familiar to feed. Self-feeding means that a simulated GGG ''could'' charge itself up.
I suppose the spade question here is if a simulated GGG will self-feed. --[[User:JoetheRat|JoetheRat]] 13:23, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== Super Stench Attack ==
So far this has only happened to me once, but the adventure after getting the "belch" message, my GGG released a cloud of stench on a rampaging adding machine that did 173 damage at 12 lbs. This is an incredible amount of damage for such a low weight. My theory is that this only happens the turn immediately after filling the GGG up, but more spading would be nice. Unfortunately, I c/p the message when I got it. --[[User:Dante5454|Dante5454]] 18:58, 1 October 2007 (CDT)
 
In addendum: Raymond lets loose a tremendous, ghostly belch, emotionally scarring and grossing out your opponent for 160 damage. Albeit an incredibly small testing period, I'm fairly confidant about it doing that only immediately after becoming full. Also, it seems to happen in the first  round of combat in which you fight.--[[User:Dante5454|Dante5454]] 19:03, 1 October 2007 (CDT)


A [http://forums.kingdomofloathing.com/viewtopic.php?p=2642256#2642256 forum post] lists a 29 pound GGG doing 338 stench damage, no elemental weakness.--[[User:Lostcalpolydude|Lostcalpolydude]] 12:16, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
It seems that the Ghost autofeeds the stuff that are sold in stores. I've seen it eat a tomato successfully after a fight with the possessed can of tomatoes. --[[User:Zekashis|Zekashis]] 09:57, 12 October 2007 (CDT)


While I don't know if it is a product of fullness or just a coincidence, but my GGG only appears to do the  stench attack after I have fed it a few Insanely Spicy Burritos. The GGG was over-filled (I was misreading the attack messages), but I didn't get the stench attack when I fed it with a ton of random foods. I am a seal clubber and (due to the icy-peak farming) have fed it my extra insanely spicy bean burritos - not insanely spicy enchanted bean burritos. --[[User:Defendingjester|Defendingjester]] 12:32, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
==Hunger==
I've observed my ghost giving all of the messages in the original entry, and afterwards giving me MP without having been fed any further. So there wouldn't seem to be a definitive "is now empty" message amongst them. Needs some more definitive data, though; it hasn't been my goal to spade these out this run. --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 02:05, 27 October 2007 (CDT)


Globius Faticus lets loose a tremendous, ghostly belch, emotionally scarring and grossing out your opponent for 1754 damageBattle after i fed him 150 or so ballroom blintzes, next battle 732 damage. Next battle 302Looks as if they can only hold a certain amount of food before letting it out.[[User:Wojo|Wojo]] 14:34, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
There are actually two end-of-combat messages that display when the ghost is completely empty: one about him showing green gums and one about drool leaking from the corners of his mouthI suspect they were added after the Starfish-like threshhold was lowered to 1 since I got my ghost just after that.  --unsigned comment added by [[User:JoseCurevo|JoseCuervo]]
:Ah, yes, you're right, I hadn't realized those messages weren't even in the main entry yet. I just assumed they wereI haven't verified for myself if these are definitely "is now empty" messages, but there are definitely a couple of messages missing from the entry right now.  If I'm not beaten to the punch, I'll add them when next I see them. --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 17:23, 28 October 2007 (CDT)


==Super Stench Attack==


Slimer lets loose a tremendous, ghostly belch, emotionally scarring and grossing out your opponent for 1812 damage. I just kept feeding him around 150ish desiccated apricots. He didn't use the belch attack in the next battle, but did so after that for 625. --[[User:Devion|Devion]] 19:11, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
Much of this is covered in the forum post linked to in the entry. I doubt the change to the minimum fullness counter affected this ability, but if anyone notices a discrepancy bring it up. --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 02:05, 27 October 2007 (CDT)


Anyone had a chance to figure out if the ghost will use this attack against the Naughty Sorceress?  Or any of the lesser bosses?  --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 19:58, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
Data from my NS stunt--belch damage:
[http://narya.lenharth.org/~philipl/KoL/NS/]
*254538
*174375
*85478
*39626
*15770
*11332
*5735
*2034
*1269
*527
*276
*Ascended
--[[User:DarthDud|DarthDud]] 13:40, 11 April 2008 (CDT)


Lesser bosses should work just fine. Ronin/hardcore getting enough fullness for it to happen might be hard to attain, Does the hobo retain blasts when the NS debuffs?----
=== Belch attack used against tower monsters? ===


* Yes the hobo retains blasts after the NS debuffs. Makes it a good familiar to fight her with.--[[User:Darkness|Darkness]] 23:44, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
I'm wondering if it would be plausible to get a whole bunch of good food, fill your ghost of to the brim, and use it's belch as a way to take out the tower monsters? i realize theres only been 1 guy thats done that so far, but would this give the theoretical possibility to do that relativly easily?[[User:Funny snake 100|Funny snake 100]] 21:46, 22 October 2007 (CDT)


==Priming==
So far, we've seen values around a thousand, maybe 2000 from a waay full ghost. The amount of food it would take to make the ghost deal 10000+ damage is just staggering. It'd probably take 20-30K adventures worth of food. That's something like a THOUSAND Hi Mein. Hey, if you've got 6 Million meat to blow and about a day you're willing to waste pressing the "feed" button 1000 times, be my guest. --[[User:Wildfire393|Wildfire393]] 00:55, 23 October 2007 (CDT)
A new theory floating around is that the ghost has to be "primed" or "built-up" for full output of food, either once a day or once per ascension. For example, there is a threshold of "x" fullness, during which he outputs by the formula "(no. of shots = fullness of food)". After "x" is surpassed through feeding, he starts to output by "(no. of shots = advs from food)". I'm not sure of the validity of this theory but it is certainly an interesting idea. --[[User:Sephiroth559|Sephiroth559]] 21:05, 3 October 2007 (CDT)


==Spading Needed==
A more cost effective method would be 3 tiered wedding cakes. 35k adventures for 1 million.
1. Finding out if turns of MP regen are based on fullness, quality or both.
--[[User:Pikawss|Pikawss]] 21:40, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


2. Determining the exact formula for MP regen based on weight, and if it really is the same as the hobo, reposting it here.
* Does the ghost eat wedding cakes?  Its an NPC food, so my guess is that it does not. Nice try though --[[User:Anmbia|Anmbia]] 06:49, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


3. Determining formula for damage of stench attack, and whether based on quality or fullness or both.
*My mistake. Missed that part of the mechanic. Didn't realize NPC foods were disallowed.
--[[User:Pikawss|Pikawss]] 02:17, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


4. Determining the percentages of food stealing, and if the resulting increase in fullness of GGG is exactly what it would be if fed to him normally.
IstariAsuka/Darthdud has done just that, my friend [http://narya.lenharth.org/~philipl/KoL/NS/NS_DeadSansWand_3.jpg] --[[User:Rentsy|Rentsy]] 02:45, 14 March 2008 (CDT)


5. (And one I added) If chance of MP regen decreases with less fullness of GGG.--[[User:Dante5454|Dante5454]] 16:05, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
== Messages and Bib ==


So after playing with this familiar for some time, and using cocoa eggshell fragments to feed it, I found that in fact, some of the statements regarding messages were not true:
* At 100 or fewer charges, the familiar either displays messages about trying to steal food or swooping through your opponent. This is akin to the hit/miss combat paradigm for other familiars.
* The threshold for stench attack is less than 110, but greater than 100. (I got the attack at 109.)
* I've carefully counted now five times and the growls message begins with fewer than 20 charges, as do the drooling/needs food badly message. They just occur in different places.
* The plastic bib increases the number of charges by an unknown amount. So far, I've seen 6 charges for 5 adventures worth of food, 66 for 50, and 13 for 10. It implies that there is a 20-30% increase in charges, but more needs to be tested.--[[User:Foggy|Foggy]] 15:33, 23 January 2011 (UTC)


==Pie man was not meant to eat?==
I'm pondering this since the Spookyraven revamp I need a second opinion: Does the [[Pie man was not meant to eat]] deserve a special mentioning here? I'm not eager to add every tiny little thing on every wiki page with some relevance or give much of a shopping advice, but the pie seems almost as if it was ''made'' to fuel this familiar... --[[User:Yatsufusa|Yatsufusa]] ([[User talk:Yatsufusa|talk]]) 00:51, 30 November 2014 (UTC)


6. What the dessert cart and garbage rifling messages actually indicate.  In my experience, the loudly growling stomach message <b>always</b> means that he will be hungry next combat if you don't feed in-between, but the other two messages were often obtained in the middle of shots.  I'd like to know if they indicate some hidden action.--[[User:Silly-na|Silly-na]] 18:12, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
Even though I don't have this familiar, I'd wondered about using the pie to feed it myself (and whether the pie was specifically blacklisted somehow)So I'd vote for including a mention of it. --[[User:Xande|Xande]] ([[User talk:Xande|talk]]) 18:58, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 18:58, 30 November 2014

Miscellaneous

This page seems to have gotten too big for its britches, so I've pruned a lot of things from the page. --Flargen 02:05, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

To be spaded

  • What is this guy's arena strength?
Found this on one of the standard pages for determining arena combat choices. Added to the article. --Flargen 17:34, 28 October 2007 (CDT)
  • Determining the percentages of food stealing, and if the resulting increase in fullness of GGG is exactly what it would be if fed to him normally.
  • Are the "hunger indicators" in the main entry truly hunger indicators? How much remaining fullness do the trigger at? (See Hunger section below)
  • Are the inaction messages (rifling through the desert cart, et al.) indicative of anything?
  • Does the Got Milk effect increase the attack yield from consumed food, much as Ode to Booze increases the Spirit Hobo's attack yield from consumed booze? --Mighty Xerxes 09:50, 8 February 2008 (CST)
  • Do you get the keys out of key lime pies - would make save boozer/teetot characters running the dungeon for the keys

References

Obviously, there are many ghostbusters references, including the picture - ThisisCarl

This reference: "This familiar also references Green Glutton Ghosts, which are a fixture of any number of roguelike computer games." seems a bit bogus. The roguelike games do have those, but they are clearly Ghostbuster references. KoL isn't referencing the roguelikes, it is going to the original. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 14:03, 2 October 2007 (CDT)

I suspect this may also reference The Green Ghost game of the late 1960s (which may have been re-released in the late '90s). --LdySaphyre 09:45, 12 October 2007 (CDT)

The food consumption message: "Crumbs fly everywhere as <name> scarfs down the <food>." is prossibly a reference to Cookie Monster from Sesame Street. FauxReal 05:10, 22 June 2008 (CDT)

Feeding

Using remote form submission to have the ghost attempt to eat an NPC item you have results in "<name> snubs his nose at your offering of a <item>." Does that belong in the article somewhere? --Ricket 17:03, 1 October 2007 (CDT)

Yes. I'll add it. --Flargen 11:43, 7 October 2007 (CDT)

I got this message upon killing a lesser fruit golem: "Jimmie rubs his stomach and looks hungrily for something to eat. Before you can stop him, he grabs a lemon and stuffs it into his gaping ghostly maw." So apparently he DOES eat lemons. Also, has anyone else seen this message? maybe it only appears when he's very hungry? (mine was) --Stzein 10:34, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

It seems that the Ghost autofeeds the stuff that are sold in stores. I've seen it eat a tomato successfully after a fight with the possessed can of tomatoes. --Zekashis 09:57, 12 October 2007 (CDT)

Hunger

I've observed my ghost giving all of the messages in the original entry, and afterwards giving me MP without having been fed any further. So there wouldn't seem to be a definitive "is now empty" message amongst them. Needs some more definitive data, though; it hasn't been my goal to spade these out this run. --Flargen 02:05, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

There are actually two end-of-combat messages that display when the ghost is completely empty: one about him showing green gums and one about drool leaking from the corners of his mouth. I suspect they were added after the Starfish-like threshhold was lowered to 1 since I got my ghost just after that. --unsigned comment added by JoseCuervo

Ah, yes, you're right, I hadn't realized those messages weren't even in the main entry yet. I just assumed they were. I haven't verified for myself if these are definitely "is now empty" messages, but there are definitely a couple of messages missing from the entry right now. If I'm not beaten to the punch, I'll add them when next I see them. --Flargen 17:23, 28 October 2007 (CDT)

Super Stench Attack

Much of this is covered in the forum post linked to in the entry. I doubt the change to the minimum fullness counter affected this ability, but if anyone notices a discrepancy bring it up. --Flargen 02:05, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

Data from my NS stunt--belch damage: [1]

  • 254538
  • 174375
  • 85478
  • 39626
  • 15770
  • 11332
  • 5735
  • 2034
  • 1269
  • 527
  • 276
  • Ascended

--DarthDud 13:40, 11 April 2008 (CDT)

Belch attack used against tower monsters?

I'm wondering if it would be plausible to get a whole bunch of good food, fill your ghost of to the brim, and use it's belch as a way to take out the tower monsters? i realize theres only been 1 guy thats done that so far, but would this give the theoretical possibility to do that relativly easily?Funny snake 100 21:46, 22 October 2007 (CDT)

So far, we've seen values around a thousand, maybe 2000 from a waay full ghost. The amount of food it would take to make the ghost deal 10000+ damage is just staggering. It'd probably take 20-30K adventures worth of food. That's something like a THOUSAND Hi Mein. Hey, if you've got 6 Million meat to blow and about a day you're willing to waste pressing the "feed" button 1000 times, be my guest. --Wildfire393 00:55, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

A more cost effective method would be 3 tiered wedding cakes. 35k adventures for 1 million. --Pikawss 21:40, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Does the ghost eat wedding cakes? Its an NPC food, so my guess is that it does not. Nice try though --Anmbia 06:49, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
  • My mistake. Missed that part of the mechanic. Didn't realize NPC foods were disallowed.

--Pikawss 02:17, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

IstariAsuka/Darthdud has done just that, my friend [2] --Rentsy 02:45, 14 March 2008 (CDT)

Messages and Bib

So after playing with this familiar for some time, and using cocoa eggshell fragments to feed it, I found that in fact, some of the statements regarding messages were not true:

  • At 100 or fewer charges, the familiar either displays messages about trying to steal food or swooping through your opponent. This is akin to the hit/miss combat paradigm for other familiars.
  • The threshold for stench attack is less than 110, but greater than 100. (I got the attack at 109.)
  • I've carefully counted now five times and the growls message begins with fewer than 20 charges, as do the drooling/needs food badly message. They just occur in different places.
  • The plastic bib increases the number of charges by an unknown amount. So far, I've seen 6 charges for 5 adventures worth of food, 66 for 50, and 13 for 10. It implies that there is a 20-30% increase in charges, but more needs to be tested.--Foggy 15:33, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Pie man was not meant to eat?

I'm pondering this since the Spookyraven revamp I need a second opinion: Does the Pie man was not meant to eat deserve a special mentioning here? I'm not eager to add every tiny little thing on every wiki page with some relevance or give much of a shopping advice, but the pie seems almost as if it was made to fuel this familiar... --Yatsufusa (talk) 00:51, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Even though I don't have this familiar, I'd wondered about using the pie to feed it myself (and whether the pie was specifically blacklisted somehow). So I'd vote for including a mention of it. --Xande (talk) 18:58, 30 November 2014 (UTC)