Talk:House

Since it falls under the Quest Items in Miscellaneous section before being used, I wonder if it gets lost when you ascend if it isn't used?--Animus 03:24, 17 March 2006 (CST)

• I'm pretty sure it's treated the same way as any other quest item (thus gets lost). --NewZorkBat 03:36, 17 March 2006 (CST)

BM Values Different?

I seem to be regenerating +55 HP and MP in BM after rollover with a house, not the base ~40. My campground has a meat maid, the cook/tend boxes, and the arches. Is anyone else observing increased post-rollover values? --Bagatelle 16:12, 12 December 2007 (CST)

• OK, tried this again yesterday, with the moons at

prior to rollover, and

after. Before yesterday, I had no cooker/tender in my campground and noticed nothing untoward in the HP/MP rollover restore. Immediately after installing a cooker and tender after unimprisming the King yesterday, the rollover restore granted HP 676/948->731 (+55), MP 2/168->60 (+58). The last time I posted was a Moxie day, with moons before

and after

so it doesn't seem to be a Myst day issue. Additionally, there seems to be talk at Talk:Rollover confirming a cooker/tender bonus. So I'm gonna tag this. --Bagatelle 14:27, 2 January 2008 (CST)

Rollover Data

Day	Moons Before Rollover	Moons After	Campground Gear	Expected Rollover HP	Expected Rollover MP	Total Rollover HP	Total Rollover MP
2008-01-05			barskin tent, meat maid, tender	18-20	20	11 (hit ceiling)	29 (hit ceiling)
2008-01-06			barskin tent, meat maid, tender	18-20	20	35	35
2008-01-07			barskin tent, meat maid, tender	18-20	20	35	35
2008-01-08			barskin tent, meat maid, tender	18-20	20	35	35
2008-01-09			barskin tent, meat maid, tender	18-20	20	35	35
2008-01-10			house, meat maid, tender	38-40	40	55	55
2008-01-11			house, meat maid, tender, chef	38-40	40	55	55
2008-01-12			house, meat maid, tender, chef	38-40	40	55	55
2008-01-13			house, meat maid, tender, chef	38-40	40	55	55
2008-01-14			house, meat maid, tender, chef	38-40	40	55	55
2008-01-15			house, meat maid, tender, chef	38-40	40	55	55

With the above showing no moon variation, I feel comfortable enough to drop the graphics, which are a pain to code. Another run's worth of data:

Day	Campground Gear	Expected Rollover HP	Expected Rollover MP	Total Rollover HP	Total Rollover MP
2008-01-20	barskin tent, evil golden arches	18-20	20	17 (hit ceiling)	20 (hit ceiling)
2008-01-21 & 22	barskin tent, evil golden arches	18-20	20	20	20
2008-01-23 through 29 (except for 25--forgot to keep track)	house, evil golden arches	38-40	40	40	40

Interestingly, not ever observing any "8"s in the previous two runs. Also interestingly, not ever observing the extra +3 MP from my post on "14:27, 2 January 2008". --Bagatelle 22:10, 30 January 2008 (CST)

Days	Campground Gear	Expected Rollover HP	Expected Rollover MP	Total Rollover HP	Total Rollover MP
1	Newbiesport	8-10	10	10	10
1	Barskin	18-20	20	20	20
1	Barskin + arches	18-20	20	20	20
2	Cottage + arches	28-30	30	30	30
4	House + arches	38-40	40	40	40
1	House + arches + chef	38-40	40	40	40
1	Barskin	18-20	20	20	20
1	Cottage + maid + fountain	28-30	30	30	30
2	Cottage + maid + fountain + chef + tender	28-30	30	45	45
2	House + maid + fountain + chef + tender	38-40	40	55	55
3	Barskin	18-20	20	20	20
1	Barskin + tender	18-20	20	33 (hit cap)	35
4	House + tender	38-40	40	55	55
2	Newbiesport	8-10	10	10	10
1	Barskin + fountain	18-20	20	20	20
1	Barskin + fountain + chef	18-20	20	20	20
3	House + fountain + chef	38-40	40	40	40
1	House + fountain + chef + tender	38-40	40	55	55
1	Newbiesport	8-10	10	10	10
1	Newbiesport + chef	8-10	10	10	10
2	Barskin + chef	18-20	20	20	20
3	House + chef	38-40	40	40	40

I'm going to assume my +3 MP post from "14:27, 2 January 2008" is erroneous record-keeping. Then, it looks like it's the tender doing +15 HP/MP, and the chef does zilch. Oddly enough, through all those data points, I've never observed a less-than-max resting value, even though the relevant articles all say the rollover HP amount should be equal to the base (random, with range of 2) housing resting amount. --Bagatelle 16:25, 21 March 2008 (CDT)

New message?

I could swear I never got this message before. [1] (Picture)

Is this a hardcore-only thing or what?

[2]

The following picture.

--Rabidzora 13:02, 2 February 2008 (CST)

No, Jick and Co. just made changes to how the housing system works. Possibly a portent that there will be housing that doesn't fit the current hierarchical progression, like a house that gives 70 HP and 20 MP. Or not. Maybe Jick just wanted to give us a way of burning some stuff to the ground. --Flargen 13:18, 2 February 2008 (CST)