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I'm not sure how to add metadata.  The image name is moon4.gif, and the click text ID# is 3f23af7d42cd450e5a198ba091a842c1. --[[User:Uknowforkids|Uknowforkids]] 16:52, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
I'm not sure how to add metadata.  The image name is moon4.gif, and the click text ID# is 3f23af7d42cd450e5a198ba091a842c1. --[[User:Uknowforkids|Uknowforkids]] 16:52, 28 June 2007 (CDT)


It definitely increased my stat gains from fights - an extra 5-6 points per fight in the Castle, but my baseline was weird.  After it wore off, I was getting ~8 more stats than normal, without any stat-boosting familiar, equipment, or effects, and it wasn't all from the Myst stat day (some of it must have been, though). I'll try some more tomorrow, on a non-stat day, to see if there are measurable effects. --[[User:Riotnrrd|Riotnrrd]] 18:01, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
It definitely increased my stat gains from fights - an extra 4-6 points per fight in the Castle, but I can't spade it out more, because my baseline was weird - it's like I have an invisible sombrero familiar.  --[[User:Riotnrrd|Riotnrrd]] 18:01, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
 
It has had no effect on my main stat (mysticality) on a mysticality day (17 adventures with Moon'd, 31 without in Haunted bathroom)
--[[User:Kosher le pesach|Kosher le pesach]] 17:59, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
 
==Data==
Adventuring naked in [[the Dire Warren]], no familiar, with [[Greed]], [[Sloth]], [[Wrath]], [[Envy]], [[Pride]], and [[Aspect of the Twinklefairy]]. These passives plus the base 1 stat should give 5 stats per fight. Although, of course, ''after'' I captured the data today I figured out that [[the Haunted Billiards Room]] is probably a better place to test this as it has ML 0 mod 4, so that it doesn't suffer from potential rounding effects. Six units of light for the Warren data, and the lion's share of the data indicate +6 stats per fight.
{|align="center" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" border="1px" style="border-collapse:collapse; text-align:center;"
!Date
!Moons
!Location
!Stat Gain
!Observations
|-
|rowspan="3" |2007-11-04
|rowspan="3" |{{moon|2|5|4}}<br />'''Muscle day'''
|rowspan="3" |[[The Dire Warren]]
|10
|1
|-
|11
|18
|-
|12
|1
|-
|}
--[[User:Bagatelle|Bagatelle]] 17:20, 4 November 2007 (CST)
 
*Just don't forget to account for the *1.25 muscle bonus from the moons today. --{{User:Coolguy00001/sig}} 20:56, 4 November 2007 (CST)
**Ha! And I even added to moons to stare at me in the face. I r nub. --[[User:Bagatelle|Bagatelle]] 22:30, 4 November 2007 (CST)
 
In [[the Haunted Billiards Room]], naked, no familiar, nothing except Moon'd, [[Greed]], [[Sloth]], [[Wrath]], [[Envy]], [[Pride]]. Expected gain without Moon'd is 5 (monster) + 4 (Pride) = 9.
{|align="center" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" border="1px" style="border-collapse:collapse; text-align:center;"
!Date
!Moons
!Light
!Monster
!Stat Gain
!Observations
|-
|rowspan="2" |2007-11-05
|rowspan="2" |{{moon|3|6|}}
|rowspan="2" |5
|[[pooltergeist]]
|14
|11
|-
|[[chalkdust wraith]]
|14
|9
|-
|-
|rowspan="2" |2007-11-06
|rowspan="2" |{{moon|4|6|2}}
|rowspan="2" |5
|[[pooltergeist]]
|14
|8
|-
|[[chalkdust wraith]]
|14
|12
|-
|rowspan="4" |2007-11-07
|rowspan="4" |{{moon|5|7|4}}<br />'''Myst Day'''
|rowspan="4" |7
|rowspan="2" |[[pooltergeist]]
|14-15
|7
|-
|14
|7
|-
|rowspan="2" |[[chalkdust wraith]]
|14-15
|3
|-
|14
|3
|-
|-
|rowspan="2" |2007-11-"08"
|rowspan="2" |{{moon|6|7|6}}
|rowspan="2" |4
|[[pooltergeist]]
|14
|10
|-
|[[chalkdust wraith]]
|14
|10
|}
--[[User:Bagatelle|Bagatelle]] 17:02, 5 November 2007 (CST)
 
:For the Myst stat day, I reverse-engineered a range of possible original Myst substats using these data:
{|align="center" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" border="1px" style="border-collapse:collapse; text-align:center;"
|-
!Original Substat
|1
|2
|3
|4
|5
|6
|7
|8
|9
|10
|11
|12
|13
|14
|-
!× 1.25 Bonus
|1.25
|2.5
|3.75
|5
|6.25
|7.5
|8.75
|10
|11.25
|12.5
|13.75
|15
|16.25
|17.5
|}
:Assuming decimals can still round either up or down, the observed Myst substat can be mapped back to a range of original substats.
{|align="center" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" border="1px" style="border-collapse:collapse; text-align:center;"
|-
!Observed Myst Gain
|1
|2
|3
|4
|5
|6
|7
|8
|9
|10
|11
|12
|13
|14
|-
!Original Range
|1
|1-2
|2-3
|3
|4
|5
|5-6
|6-7
|7
|8
|9
|9-10
|10-11
|11
|}
:The stat day original range can then be added to the off-stat components to get a range of the original stats.
:
:Looks like a flat +5, independent of total light and Grimace darkness, unless the formula is a weird non-linear one. --[[User:Bagatelle|Bagatelle]] 22:24, 7 November 2007 (CST)

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I'm not sure how to add metadata. The image name is moon4.gif, and the click text ID# is 3f23af7d42cd450e5a198ba091a842c1. --Uknowforkids 16:52, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

It definitely increased my stat gains from fights - an extra 4-6 points per fight in the Castle, but I can't spade it out more, because my baseline was weird - it's like I have an invisible sombrero familiar. --Riotnrrd 18:01, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

It has had no effect on my main stat (mysticality) on a mysticality day (17 adventures with Moon'd, 31 without in Haunted bathroom) --Kosher le pesach 17:59, 19 August 2007 (CDT)

Data

Adventuring naked in the Dire Warren, no familiar, with Greed, Sloth, Wrath, Envy, Pride, and Aspect of the Twinklefairy. These passives plus the base 1 stat should give 5 stats per fight. Although, of course, after I captured the data today I figured out that the Haunted Billiards Room is probably a better place to test this as it has ML 0 mod 4, so that it doesn't suffer from potential rounding effects. Six units of light for the Warren data, and the lion's share of the data indicate +6 stats per fight.

Date Moons Location Stat Gain Observations
2007-11-04

Muscle day 		The Dire Warren 10 1
11 18
12 1

--Bagatelle 17:20, 4 November 2007 (CST)

  • Just don't forget to account for the *1.25 muscle bonus from the moons today. --CG1:t,c,e 20:56, 4 November 2007 (CST)
    • Ha! And I even added to moons to stare at me in the face. I r nub. --Bagatelle 22:30, 4 November 2007 (CST)

In the Haunted Billiards Room, naked, no familiar, nothing except Moon'd, Greed, Sloth, Wrath, Envy, Pride. Expected gain without Moon'd is 5 (monster) + 4 (Pride) = 9.

Date Moons Light Monster Stat Gain Observations
2007-11-05
5 pooltergeist 14 11
chalkdust wraith 14 9
2007-11-06
5 pooltergeist 14 8
chalkdust wraith 14 12
2007-11-07

Myst Day 		7 pooltergeist 14-15 7
14 7
chalkdust wraith 14-15 3
14 3
2007-11-"08"
4 pooltergeist 14 10
chalkdust wraith 14 10

--Bagatelle 17:02, 5 November 2007 (CST)

For the Myst stat day, I reverse-engineered a range of possible original Myst substats using these data:
Original Substat 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
× 1.25 Bonus 1.25 2.5 3.75 5 6.25 7.5 8.75 10 11.25 12.5 13.75 15 16.25 17.5
Assuming decimals can still round either up or down, the observed Myst substat can be mapped back to a range of original substats.
Observed Myst Gain 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
Original Range 1 1-2 2-3 3 4 5 5-6 6-7 7 8 9 9-10 10-11 11
The stat day original range can then be added to the off-stat components to get a range of the original stats.
Looks like a flat +5, independent of total light and Grimace darkness, unless the formula is a weird non-linear one. --Bagatelle 22:24, 7 November 2007 (CST)
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