Talk:Dressing For Success

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Underwater Page

I'm thinking about doing some underwater adventuring soon and I love these Dressing For Success pages, so I thought one for Underwater things might be helpful. I started a rough draft at Maximizing Your Underwater Success. I've only included pressure reduction so far, but it's kinda empty so I'm thinking adding equipment/effects that has other underwater-only effects (+meat, +items, familiar weight, etc.). I think this page would be nice to have, but do others think it's unnecessary? --RttlesnkeWhiskey 01:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Not right now, given that just about everything on that page is on Underwater adventuring. It's just not that complex yet.--Toffile 02:08, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Uncle Hobo Gear

The Uncle Hobo gear doesn't fit into the established color categories. It is both no longer obtainable and untradable. Right now it's in the same category as the standard Hobopolis gear, which is potentially confusing. Do we want to add a new color just for those 6 items? --Tainted Food Product 20:58, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

• How about

Legend
Ultra rares and Raffle House/Radio prizes	Tradable and still obtainable, but rare
Semi-rares and war hero drops
Mr. Store items	Tradable, but no longer obtainable
Other limited time content
Clan Dungeon non-tradables	Untradable, but still obtainable
Other non-tradables
Uncle Hobo drops	Untradable, and no longer obtainable
*	Single-equip accessory or two-handed weapon

this. ----Icon315♕ (☎|♤) 21:21, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

That shows up pretty light on my screen, at first I thought you had just left it white. Maybe closer to #FFFF80?

Uncle Hobo drops

Untradable, and no longer obtainable

--Tainted Food Product 21:57, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

BHY-Equipment

So meanwhile we learned that the option to do BHY-runs didn't disappear after August 14. Now the question is: Should honeybritches, honeycap and honey dipper marked as untradable? Since the actual source (handful of honey) is tradable I propose to mark them as tradable for Maximizing Your... purposes. After all players who look into this item-lists are interested mainly on the availability to them right now. While a BHY ascension would be necessary for someone to make the items available, it's not comparable to stainless steel or brimstone items. Items made from paperclips are untradable as well, but can still be bought in high numbers from the mall and thus were suitably marked as Other limited time content. I propose we mark the honey-equipment white/blank, as the regular obtainable items that they actually are. --Yatsufusa 09:23, 10 September 2011 (CEST)

• They're marked as untradable, but still available, because they are untradeable, but still available. Paperclip and Bark outfits were marked Other Limited Time Content, not because of their availability in the mall, but because it was part of other limited time content (you can't get it in-run). Moonthril, Double-Ice, Sugar, Game Grid, and Pen Pal items are marked Mr. Store, because they're Mr. Store derivatives. Despite the Mr. Store category saying "no longer available", the parts that make them are being created every day, and will be available even after bark and paperclips disappear from the mall. Point is, the honey outfit is fine in that category--Erich 11:06, 10 September 2011 (CEST)

Page categorization

Is there a reason why this and all "Maximizing Your ..." pages are categorized as world events? --Octagon8 12:39, 3 March 2012 (CET)

Thanks for pointing that out. Someone accidentally categorized the Legend template as an event when trying to link to it, and that in turn categorized any page it appeared on. Fixed! --timrem 00:40, 8 March 2012 (CET)

Standards?

Over the years I added my fair share to the Maximizing Your ... pages. Maybe it might have been a little too much. While I think the buffs are fine that way, certain equipment-slots have grown to a degree where I don't know if it's still reasonable to list some of the lower ranks. I for one have always tried to keep all kinds of players in all game-modes in mind, including those without big chunks of meat to just buy rarer drops or iotm-summons. While I would readily cut those lists to take into account today's more powerful items, I wanted to ask around for some ideas and general suggestions on where to draw the line. So far, as a rule of thumb, I listed nothing under plus eleven or under 5%, except when there wasn't much else around. Exceptions were buffs or non-buff skills. --Yatsufusa 22:59, 18 August 2012 (CEST)

Papier-mâché

How should we categorize items made from papier-mâché globs? Coming from a KoL Con-item, I would add them as other limited time content, since you can't buy them for Mr. As and the source item fits/will fit the definition "Tradable, but no longer obtainable". Any objections? --Yatsufusa 08:05, 26 September 2012 (CEST)

• Honestly, I think they're closer to "Tradable and still obtainable, but rare", as the source book will be available yearly, and the rad libs themselves are (or will be once demand settles a bit) readily available in the mall. It doesn't fit either of the two reddish categories, but it's still be available. --Valliant 08:46, 26 September 2012 (CEST)
  • Thanks. I somehow missed the whole available yearly thing, because it's not on the respective item pages and I failed to read the KoL Con article. I agree that under these circumstances, Papier-mâché items belong with Radio prizes, which have an unconventional obtaining method, but are available on a somewhat regular basis. --Yatsufusa 10:08, 26 September 2012 (CEST)