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==Previous Accounts==
HC Mall Multi: Is there any way to send an item FROM a HC account's Hagnks with 0 meat there? help.
 
LadyBoobsalot: gud meggsy!
'''Jantor'''
LadyBoobsalot: not if there's no meat in Hagnk's
<br>account created: 2006
LadyBoobsalot: you need the meat in Hagnk's to pay for the package
<br>Runs and ascensions:
HC Mall Multi: well that just sux. so much for having mall multi
<br>[[Pastamancer]] ([[Pastamastery]])
HC Mall Multi: can't sell my cigar box >_>
<br>[[Pastamancer]] ([[Springy Fusilli]])([[HCO]])
Ecce Hominid: save your cigar box for a while, let it do some inflating
<br>[[Sauceror]] ([[HCO]])
HC Mall Multi: (sent all meat to multi before ascending, all i need is 50 friggin meat!!)
 
Jack S: You'd take a loss, anyways. Mr As are selling for about 500,000 more than one.
This account expired during the third run.
HC Mall Multi: tome will inflate more than the box, which dropped, was gonna trade
 
mEGGerY: Whoa... you just admitted to sending meat to a multi
'''Paladen'''
LadyBoobsalot: I don't want details but something in your description makes me think that could be considered multi abuse. But I'm turning a deaf ear right now
<br>account created: some time after [[NS13]]
mEGGerY: in open chat
<br>Runs and ascensions
Ecce Hominid: he did, huh?
<br>[[Pastamancer]]
mEGGerY: Not very smart
 
Ecce Hominid: recommend you stop talking openly about your multi-abuse
This account expired after defeating 999 hippies during the [[Mysterious Island Quest|Level 12 Quest]].
HC Mall Multi: nope look at my account. 0 turns. impossible to abuse
 
mEGGerY: Don't be suprised if you get in trouble or disabled for that
==Pnan==
LadyBoobsalot: before someone feels inclined to tell #6
The name "Pnan" was randomly created by slapping keys on a [http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/productDetail/us_ti84pse.html  calculator] while naming a program.
mEGGerY: Wrong.
 
LadyBoobsalot: It's not impossible. Trust me on that
===Familiars===
sirHAckenslaSH: No see, that looks even more like abuse
Each of Pnan's familiars are anagrams of either the familiar, its hatchling, or its familiar equipment. Examples:
mEGGerY: You don't have to have turns for mutli abuse to occur.
 
gIMPH runs into the chat room after playing too much Resident Evil Zero. :O
{{click|image=familiar1.gif|link=mosquito}} A Squalor Vomit, the [[Mosquito]] (anagram of [[mosquito larva]])
sirHAckenslaSH: If you have no turns run but lots of mall activity that's a dead giveaway
<br>{{click|image=dishand.gif|link=Disembodied Hand}} Obligatory Strong Pickax, the [[Disembodied Hand]] (anagram of [[spooky rattling cigar box]])
HC Mall Multi: *rolls eyes* the only way to abuse a multi is to use it and your main to buy raffles, in the case you both win
<br>{{click|image=familiar2.gif|link=leprechaun}} Ace Run Help, the [[Leprechaun]] (anagram of [[Leprechaun]])
KimVengeance: poor multi
<br>{{click|image=familiar16.gif|link=Cocoabo}} Colours Patches, the [[Cocoabo]] (anagram of [[chocolate spurs]])
AllRiGhT92 grinds the Song of Storms on an organ all the while getting an eerie grin on his face and squinting his eyes
<br>{{click|image=familiar11.gif|link=grue}} Urge, the [[Grue]] (anagram of [[Grue]])
KimVengeance: :(
 
sirHAckenslaSH: Plus the blatant "hay look at what I'm doing" name you have there
==Martingale System Analysis for the [[MMG]]==
Ecce Hominid: i love multi czar's eye
[[image:Oldman.gif|center]]
LadyBoobsalot: Oh bollocks... Now I'm going to have to report it.
 
mEGGerY: Wow...
 
Ecce Hominid: multi abuse: anything that helps you advance faster than is normally possible
Let '''{B}''' equal the initial bet, which is multiplied by '''{M}''' upon each loss.
sirHAckenslaSH: That's the only way, huh?
 
mEGGerY: That is so not accurate.
 
Personal Robot Jesus: Who taught you that definition of multi abuse?
 
HC Mall Multi: jick and crew have said they want HC mall functionality , but the hagnk's code is to weak. mall multis are acceptable substitues
{|
gIMPH: Wait, so it's multi abuse if you meat farm on multiple accounts every day and send all the meat ot your main? O_o
|-align="center"
Personal Robot Jesus: A homeless guy who's off his meds?
| width="50"|Bet #
sirHAckenslaSH: When did they say this?
| width="100"|Bet value
LadyBoobsalot: See, I just spent the last 7 hours sitting in a hospital watching my dad not be able to breath
| width="200"|Net Meat after Losing '''N''' Bets
mEGGerY: yes, gIMPH, waaaay yes
| width="250"|Net Meat after Winning the '''N'''th Bet
HC Mall Multi: you need to use adventures to meat farm!!! dang guys! n00bs.
|-align="center"
gIMPH: ...Oops. :o
|N
Personal Robot Jesus: That's pretty much the textbook case of multi abuse, gIMPH
|'''B'''('''M'''<sup>N-1</sup>)
Ecce Hominid: hahahaha
|'''B'''('''M'''<sup>N</sup>-1)
Lewis the motivator: was a homeless guy off his meds once
|'''B'''(1-.002('''M'''<sup>N-1</sup>))
sirHAckenslaSH: What's your main, mall multi?
|-
mEGGerY: We're n00bs.
|}
gIMPH is a noob too.
 
mEGGerY: Yeah, I wanna know the main account.
===Calculating Initial Bet===
HC Mall Multi: Pnan
 
AddictedPithlit gives LadyBoobs a big hug
*for '''{M}'''=2
Kitchenette: oh Boobsa, I'm so sorry :(
 
LadyBoobsalot: And now I gotta be all modly.
Total Meat Willing to Lose ÷ '''{X}''' = '''{B}'''
Personal Robot Jesus: Really, Mall Multi? We didn't know that! Even those of us with 3 to 4 years of playing KoL had *no* idea that meat farming requires spending adventures!
 
Kitchenette gives a big hug, if that's ok
I am confident that I will not lose '''{N}''' bets in a row
mEGGerY: Holy shit he's only been playing since September and we're the n00bs.
 
AddictedPithlit: Wait. It does?
{|
AddictedPithlit: SHIT! So that's what I've been doing wrong all these years. -hic-
|-
Ecce Hominid: wait, you can't farm without spending adventures? this ruins my whole strategy!
! width="50"|{N}
mEGGerY: I'm sorry Boobsa.
! width="50"|{B}
gIMPH: Meat farming takes up adventures?! O_O
! width="150"|chance of loosing it all
LadyBoobsalot: Perfectly fine. Thanks Kitch and Hi Pith!!
|-align="center"
Lewis the motivator: I pretend im a newb on my new account
| 1||1||50%
Lewis the motivator: really I am an old old man
|-align="center"
gIMPH: No way!
| 2||3||25%
Lewis the motivator: really I am an 18 year old female
|-align="center"
Lewis the motivator: robot
| 3||7||12.5%
Personal Robot Jesus: guyz how i mine 4 multi abuse?
|-align="center"
HC Mall Multi: yo Robot, these n00bs are trying to report multi abuse when i've used 0 turns ^_^
| 4||15||6.25%
Lewis the motivator: how do you mine meat kidfaces?
|-align="center"
AddictedPithlit: Hi Lady! I'd ask how you're doing but, well, I can take a pretty good guess.
| 5||31||3.125%
Personal Robot Jesus: You don't have to spend turns to abuse a multi. I've already sent a Kmail to Multi Czar, so don't expect me to take your side.
|-align="center"
sirHAckenslaSH: This kids a real winner in't he?
| 6||63||1.5625%
sirHAckenslaSH: I bet you argue with your math teacher too, don't you?
|-align="center"
mEGGerY: I was just about to send a message.
| 7||127||.78125%
mEGGerY: To 6.
|-align="center"
Personal Robot Jesus: Also, you may want to check clan affiliations before calling someone a "n00b," then turning to me for support.
| 8||255||.390625%
LadyBoobsalot: Thanks Pith. I'm not that bad off though
|-align="center"
Kitchenette: Oh god Hack, there's always one in math class isn't there?
| 9||511||.195313%
mEGGerY: I wasn't going to until he started calling us n00bs/
|-align="center"
private to Personal Robot Jesus: how then, have I abused?
| 10||1023||.097656%
|-
|}
 
 
 
...where '''X'''='''M'''<sup>N</sup>-1
 
the multiplier is usually 2, but can be higher for increased returns.
 
=== Playing with Caution ===
 
If you lose 9 bets in a row, the chance that you will lose the 10th bet is still 50%, so the percentages are somewhat misleading. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy Gambler's Fallacy]  Also, assuming a 1% chance of failure, after 100 bets, that chance of failure becomes 100% (statistically). If you play long enough, you WILL lose it all, so know when to stop.
 
A technique to speed up the process of betting is to make bets in waves of 10. If 3 bets win and 7 lose, you would initiate 10 more bets (3 normal, 7 doubled). This method shows how the Martingale System falls apart because you could consistently win 9 bets, but lose the "same" bet over again, resulting in losing all of your meat at a 90% win rate (All bets are independent, so the order does not matter. Making successive bets creates the ''illusion'' of having a better chance).  If you win a majority of the 10 bets, it is best to start with a fresh 10 bets since you already made a profit.  Following the same logic, if you lose 6 and win 4, then you should only double 3, or 6-(4-1), of the bets, since the 4 wins swallow up 3 of the losses.

Revision as of 04:36, 9 November 2008

HC Mall Multi: Is there any way to send an item FROM a HC account's Hagnks with 0 meat there? help. LadyBoobsalot: gud meggsy! LadyBoobsalot: not if there's no meat in Hagnk's LadyBoobsalot: you need the meat in Hagnk's to pay for the package HC Mall Multi: well that just sux. so much for having mall multi HC Mall Multi: can't sell my cigar box >_> Ecce Hominid: save your cigar box for a while, let it do some inflating HC Mall Multi: (sent all meat to multi before ascending, all i need is 50 friggin meat!!) Jack S: You'd take a loss, anyways. Mr As are selling for about 500,000 more than one. HC Mall Multi: tome will inflate more than the box, which dropped, was gonna trade mEGGerY: Whoa... you just admitted to sending meat to a multi LadyBoobsalot: I don't want details but something in your description makes me think that could be considered multi abuse. But I'm turning a deaf ear right now mEGGerY: in open chat Ecce Hominid: he did, huh? mEGGerY: Not very smart Ecce Hominid: recommend you stop talking openly about your multi-abuse HC Mall Multi: nope look at my account. 0 turns. impossible to abuse mEGGerY: Don't be suprised if you get in trouble or disabled for that LadyBoobsalot: before someone feels inclined to tell #6 mEGGerY: Wrong. LadyBoobsalot: It's not impossible. Trust me on that sirHAckenslaSH: No see, that looks even more like abuse mEGGerY: You don't have to have turns for mutli abuse to occur. gIMPH runs into the chat room after playing too much Resident Evil Zero. :O sirHAckenslaSH: If you have no turns run but lots of mall activity that's a dead giveaway HC Mall Multi: *rolls eyes* the only way to abuse a multi is to use it and your main to buy raffles, in the case you both win KimVengeance: poor multi AllRiGhT92 grinds the Song of Storms on an organ all the while getting an eerie grin on his face and squinting his eyes KimVengeance: :( sirHAckenslaSH: Plus the blatant "hay look at what I'm doing" name you have there Ecce Hominid: i love multi czar's eye LadyBoobsalot: Oh bollocks... Now I'm going to have to report it. mEGGerY: Wow... Ecce Hominid: multi abuse: anything that helps you advance faster than is normally possible sirHAckenslaSH: That's the only way, huh? mEGGerY: That is so not accurate. Personal Robot Jesus: Who taught you that definition of multi abuse? HC Mall Multi: jick and crew have said they want HC mall functionality , but the hagnk's code is to weak. mall multis are acceptable substitues gIMPH: Wait, so it's multi abuse if you meat farm on multiple accounts every day and send all the meat ot your main? O_o Personal Robot Jesus: A homeless guy who's off his meds? sirHAckenslaSH: When did they say this? LadyBoobsalot: See, I just spent the last 7 hours sitting in a hospital watching my dad not be able to breath mEGGerY: yes, gIMPH, waaaay yes HC Mall Multi: you need to use adventures to meat farm!!! dang guys! n00bs. gIMPH: ...Oops. :o Personal Robot Jesus: That's pretty much the textbook case of multi abuse, gIMPH Ecce Hominid: hahahaha Lewis the motivator: was a homeless guy off his meds once sirHAckenslaSH: What's your main, mall multi? mEGGerY: We're n00bs. gIMPH is a noob too. mEGGerY: Yeah, I wanna know the main account. HC Mall Multi: Pnan AddictedPithlit gives LadyBoobs a big hug Kitchenette: oh Boobsa, I'm so sorry :( LadyBoobsalot: And now I gotta be all modly. Personal Robot Jesus: Really, Mall Multi? We didn't know that! Even those of us with 3 to 4 years of playing KoL had *no* idea that meat farming requires spending adventures! Kitchenette gives a big hug, if that's ok mEGGerY: Holy shit he's only been playing since September and we're the n00bs. AddictedPithlit: Wait. It does? AddictedPithlit: SHIT! So that's what I've been doing wrong all these years. -hic- Ecce Hominid: wait, you can't farm without spending adventures? this ruins my whole strategy! mEGGerY: I'm sorry Boobsa. gIMPH: Meat farming takes up adventures?! O_O LadyBoobsalot: Perfectly fine. Thanks Kitch and Hi Pith!! Lewis the motivator: I pretend im a newb on my new account Lewis the motivator: really I am an old old man gIMPH: No way! Lewis the motivator: really I am an 18 year old female Lewis the motivator: robot Personal Robot Jesus: guyz how i mine 4 multi abuse? HC Mall Multi: yo Robot, these n00bs are trying to report multi abuse when i've used 0 turns ^_^ Lewis the motivator: how do you mine meat kidfaces? AddictedPithlit: Hi Lady! I'd ask how you're doing but, well, I can take a pretty good guess. Personal Robot Jesus: You don't have to spend turns to abuse a multi. I've already sent a Kmail to Multi Czar, so don't expect me to take your side. sirHAckenslaSH: This kids a real winner in't he? sirHAckenslaSH: I bet you argue with your math teacher too, don't you? mEGGerY: I was just about to send a message. mEGGerY: To 6. Personal Robot Jesus: Also, you may want to check clan affiliations before calling someone a "n00b," then turning to me for support. LadyBoobsalot: Thanks Pith. I'm not that bad off though Kitchenette: Oh god Hack, there's always one in math class isn't there? mEGGerY: I wasn't going to until he started calling us n00bs/ private to Personal Robot Jesus: how then, have I abused?