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*what evidence do you have that the black cat disappears from your inventory when you ascend? --[[User:Evilkolbot|Evilkolbot]] 13:00, 6 August 2008 (CDT) | *what evidence do you have that the black cat disappears from your inventory when you ascend? --[[User:Evilkolbot|Evilkolbot]] 13:00, 6 August 2008 (CDT) | ||
**It was stated directly (in /hardcore) by someone who had done so. He acquired the familiar in Bad Moon aftercore, then ascended, and it was gone. Unfortunately, I've now forgotten his name. He's re-acquired it in Bad Moon and is doing a 100% run, though. --[[User:Greycat|Greycat]] 14:07, 6 August 2008 (CDT) |
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I noticed you added a comment and then removed it, claiming it to be a mistake. What was the mistake? Fruit bowl (whose drops probably need to be confirmed) instead of basket? --Quietust 11:19, 28 July 2006 (CDT)
Yes, that's exactly what it was. I didn't even realize there were two different items until that day, when my two fruit bowls dropped absolutely zero TPS fruits. (If you want to take the stats from the aborted wiki edit, they're valid numbers for the fruit bowl. Terribly small sample size, though.) --Greycat 16:57, 29 July 2006 (CDT)
Hmmm, interesting tables. A few comments:
1) You say that MMJ at level 7 is 6.67 meat per MP, however, I show in my table at the top of the page that it actually averages 6.452 meat per MP.
2) What information do these tables give us other than the fact that Lasagna Bandages are better than Tongue of the Walrus with anything between a -1 and -3 MP modifier?
3) Along the lines of (2), you also say:
"The last resort is soda water, available to everyone at any time. Note that when your only source of MP is soda water, it may be cheaper to heal yourself using Doc Galaktik's medicines instead of skills (depending on the skill and the -MP modifier)."
This is only true of Disco Nap and Tongue of the Otter with a -0 MP modifier, and Tongue of the Otter with a -1 MP modifier. If this and (2) are the major new pieces of information being conveyed by these tables, would it be better to just state them in prose? I do appreciate the work you did compiling that information, but it seems like it just clutters the page with a lot of data, most of which is very similar to what is already stated earlier on the page. Would it be better to get rid of all of them and just add a couple paragraphs stating your findings? Part of the problem as I see it is the difficulty in presenting tabular data of MMJ and Cannelloni Cocoon. They just act so differently at different levels that trying to compress them down into a "baseline" does more harm than good.
I definitely think your findings should go into this page, I'm just wondering if there is a better way to state them. -- Turias 16:43, 13 September 2006 (CDT)
I compiled the tables for my own use initially, and then decided that they may be of wider interest. In particular, I think many people would benefit from knowing when Ailment Ointments are the cheapest, and when healing skills are the cheapest.
I found the Cost Analysis page, and decided that since it already covered some of the same ground that I was covering, it would be best to merge my tables into that page, rather than starting a new page for them. You're right, though -- a nice little summary before the tables would be helpful. But I wouldn't want to omit the tables, because they're still important to people who don't have all of the healing skills yet.
I got the 6.67 meat value by rounding down the MMJ's MP restoration to 15, instead of 15.5. That was probably laziness on my part, but I don't remember for sure just why I did that. --Greycat 09:37, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
- what evidence do you have that the black cat disappears from your inventory when you ascend? --Evilkolbot 13:00, 6 August 2008 (CDT)
- It was stated directly (in /hardcore) by someone who had done so. He acquired the familiar in Bad Moon aftercore, then ascended, and it was gone. Unfortunately, I've now forgotten his name. He's re-acquired it in Bad Moon and is doing a 100% run, though. --Greycat 14:07, 6 August 2008 (CDT)