Talk:Cooking

Hello, Wikkans. I'm working at making this page a hell of a lot more informative. I'm basing the revision largely on the Cocktailcrafting page, hoping to be even more useful and usable. One idea is to make the Cooking page itself just an overview of a manageable size (featuring just a list of food and ingredients in categories), with more in-depth explorations and numerical charts relegated to Cooking strategy.

I open the discussion for two purposes. First, I would obviously like input from the KoL community on exactly what would make the pages spectacularly useful. Or also if I'm barking up the wrong tree, and in-depth, well-organized cooking and eating information is already available on a page I haven't found.

And secondly, the new pages are only so useful if the individual item pages have inaccurate info on them -- which many do. Most notably, missing or wrong fullness data. I invite one and all to embark with me on a campaign to fill out incomplete data, correct incorrect data, and force all food and cooking items to conform to the Proposed Standards, especially for Eat Effects.

Changes will begin to appear as they approach some semblance of completion.

Awaiting your enthusiasm or jeers, --PaperWhiteMaskOfEvil 15:23, 20 Sep 2005 (Central Daylight Time)

Best uses of dry noodles?

I disagree that sauced up pastas are the best dishes. They provide fewer adventures/stats per fullness than chow meins. Plus, 5 fullness chow meins fit nicely into 15 fullness per day, but you can only eat two of these special sauce/pasta dishes, plus a dinky 3-fullness dish. Just my 2c. --Eis271828 16:29, 03 Oct 2005 (Central Daylight Time)

• You make a good point, so I toned down the descriptions. I'll save more detailed discussion of the issue for Cooking strategy. However, I will mention that I consider the 6 fullness of the saucecrafting pastas to be an asset, odd as that sounds: It means you get well-fed from two dry noodles instead of three. Insanely spicy burritos make a good dessert, or key lime pies if you're hard up for seasonings. And I'll head off any rebuttal by admitting that I haven't yet crunched the numbers to see if that strategy completely holds water. --PaperWhiteMaskOfEvil 17:26, 3 Oct 2005 (MDT)

• You can only make 3 bunches of dried noodles a day. Might as well use them. Or they're readily available in the kitches. Getting full isn't inherently good, either. The point is getting adventures and stats. But, this is a minor strategy point. I guess this could be abstracted...do we want strategy in eating to be in this article? Eh, I think it fits, actually. --Eis271828 12:33, 04 Oct 2005 (Central Daylight Time)

• No, in my mind, this is not the page. That's why I started Cooking strategy, although it hasn't gotten far yet. This page was intended as more of a quick overview of what you can do, with little mention of why you would want to. The strategy page will (eventually) discuss in depth the merits of three chow meins vs. two saucy pastas and an extra dish to sell, and all kinds of other things. And your input will be very valuable!

Note: I eat mostly chowmeins, they have 3-5 fullness (I have tested these numbers over 5 teetlator ascensions) depending on which one you eat.

tofu = 3 fullness (5 pre stomach of steel (SoS), 6 Post SoS)

pr0n = 4 fullness (3 pre SoS, 5 post SoS)

bat wing = 5 fullness (3 pre SoS, 4 post SoS)

rat appendix = 5 fullness (3 pre SoS, 4 post SoS)

knob sausage = 5 fullness (3 pre SoS, 4 post Sos)

-- Uzziah

Non-food cooking

PaperWhiteMaskOfEvil, nice work! What do you think about a section for nonfood cooked items like Kentucky-fried weapons, spooky glove, pregnant mushroom, unwound clockwork grapefruit, ghost pickle on a stick? --Gymnosophist 21:00, 3 Oct 2005 (MDT)

• Thanks, Gymnosophist! Currently that kind of stuff goes in the Special Accomplishments section, along with trophies, tiny plastic stuff, etc. (Some of it's already there, some of it hadn't occurred to me yet.) I can imagine it getting a little unwieldy and in need of better organization by the time it's complete. Do you have a scheme in mind? --PaperWhiteMaskOfEvil 08:49, 4 Oct 2005 (MDT)