Talk:Falls-From-Sky (Hard Mode)

Special attack prediction

While I suspect that there may be no correlation between the messages given when blind and the actual special attack used in the 2nd round, I have a few data points, all taken in consecutive attempts with minimal difficulty level (200 kisses)

Attempt 1: "You hear a shuffling sound" / cold and physical attack

Attempt 2: "You hear a twig snap" / hot and stench attack

Attempt 3: "You hear the sound of crunching leaves" / hot and stench attack

Attempt 4: "You hear a twig snap" / spooky and sleaze attack

Attempt 5: "You hear a shuffling sound" / successfully countered with "Hide behind a tree" (would have been spooky/sleaze, I suppose)

My impression so far is that you have to either kill him in 2 rounds or take a guess on the counter-move for the second round special attack.--Banana4 (talk) 11:10, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

3500 HP with 5 kisses in hard mode 4000 HP with 6 kisses. 1700 attack, 1530 def. Damage cap 166--Lotsofphil (talk) 00:19, 8 August 2013 (UTC) 2000 HP and 900 attack/defence at 2 kisses. From Manuel base looks to be 1500 HP and 700 attack/defence. Fits with (1000+500/Kiss) HP, (500+200/kiss) Att/Def (assuming the above datapoint had a 10% defence reducer on).

The damage cap seems to be 1000/# of kisses. 166 for 6 kisses, 200 for 5 etc. --Imryano (talk) 02:44, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Post-fight (2 kisses), Manuel says 928 attack, 833 defense, 50 initiative. With +30 ML from radio and lapdog. I don't know if this is of any use whatsoever, as I don't know whether the post-fight Manuel stats are normal mode, hard mode, 1 kiss, or what. (Oh, and I had used Psalm of Pointiness.) --Greycat (talk) 14:01, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Forgot to get his stats but he has a hard damage cap of 254. --Chunky_boo (talk) 05:10, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Worth Noting?

The giant octopus will give blindness when it critical hits you. However, killing it removes it for the rest of your ascension. Some friends and I use this monster instead of white lightning because it doesn't use any drunkness and it works well, as long as you don't accidentally kill it. Would this be worth noting as a alternative to white lightning on the page? --Andrew3 (talk) 05:29, 21 September 2013 (UTC)