Talk:Amateur Tour Guide

This has something to do with the number of different "favorite familiars" in your ascension history. --Jonrock 16:10, 26 June 2007 (CDT)

• Both pre- and post-NS13? --rholliday 10:17, 4 July 2007 (CDT)

I've got 8 different favorite familiars on my ascension page, no trophy. None are 100%.--Jade Dragon Piece 14:28, 5 July 2007 (CDT)

On my pre-NS13 Ascension history, I have a few different familiars, but the greatest percentage I have is for the Hovering Sombrero on my Potentate of Pasta run (at 55%). If you need greater than 90%, this would take a deliberate effort.--Cyferpunk 09:16, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

I have 10 familiars with at least 98% on Landar II and he qualifies for the trophy. The next lowest % is 85% and I did not qualify for the trophy until I completed my 10 unique familiar run that was at least 98%. Landar 03:17, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

How is % determined? Is it just pure adventure use w/ familiar equpied? (TotalAdventures/NumberWithFamiliarEquiped)?? I have been using just my mosqiuto since like 4 days after ns13 rolled out and never changed him because I want a high % usage, but I would prefer to know how it's done--Plater 07:37, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

Number of Combat adventures with that familiar used / total number of combat adventures.--MaskedLihc 11:58, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

• I have not seen this formula mentioned anywhere else. If you run away from a combat, with no familiar, will that cause your familiar run to be 99% assuming the rest of your run is done with a single familiar? --Deedlee 09:13, 12 September 2007 (CDT)
  • Yes. Running away still counts as an adventure. Use a tattered scrap though, and a turn will not have been used. Non-combat adventures, cooking/smithing/bartending/etc do no count as combat adventures. --terrabyte 13:16, 21 September 2007

I have nine familiars with a 100% usage rate and 1 with 97% rate. So it's not just 90%...it may actually be 98%.--Foggy 08:51, 4 September 2007 (CDT)

• or it could be that 11 ascensions (of whatever threshold percentage) are needed. --Foxy Boxy 11:26, 4 September 2007 (CDT)
  • Possibly true. If it is 11, then due to Landar's comment up above, the threshold would be 85%. Another possibility is that you need a "grand total" of, say, 1000%. Any familiar run above a certain threshold (let's say 80%). That would require 13 runs at 80%, but only 10 runs at 100% each. It would explain why people that get close to 100%, but not quite, end up needing that 11th run. --terrabyte 16:00, 21 Sept 2007
    • I got it on my 10th run with a different familiar. My worst percentage out of any of them was 93%.Therefore I will state that if you have 10 runs of different familiars, all of them at least higher than 93%, you should get the trophy.--Ashallond 16:44, 21 September 2007 (CDT)

100% No Familliar?

I have only 9 ascensions with familiar percentages over 90, yet I am elligable for the trophy. The next highest is 53%. I did however do one run completely without familiar, so my only explanation is that that run is counted as a 100% run, even though I wasn't showing anyone around.--Euan 19:15, 18 May 2008 (CDT)

• which character was that on? --Evilkolbot 00:18, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
  • Euan McLeod.--Euan 05:06, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
    • yup, i count 9 and one no familiar. looks conclusive. --Evilkolbot 06:22, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
      • I can confirm a <100% non-familiar counts. I currently have 6 different familiars with 100% runs (Hobo, Hatrack, WAF, Pixie, Doppelshifter, and also a Troll with four 100% runs and a 93% run), and 3 familiars with 96% runs (Cocoabo, Sleazy Fairy, and NPZR.) Next highest familiar was a Sombrero at 84%. However, I also have a high-but-unknown-% non-familiar run that was supposed to be a 100% Blackbird run. (Yeah, I found out the major flaw in that plan afterwards. ;) ) Unfortunately, while I did do a number of combats with the Blackbird, I do not know how many combats were with him versus with no familiar; thus, I don't know what the actual percentage was, aside from being less than 100%. (Note: The trophy just became available at the beginning of my 100% Lion run I am just finishing, so the Dandy Lion that will shortly be on my history did not apply to the trophy.) --Terion 12:33, 29 May 2008 (CDT)

Percent Spading

Ok, now that everyone is confused, hold on a second. The initial premise was that all 10 runs had to be above 90%. That has not been definitively confirmed. I can confirm the 10 familiars needed (Istanbul backs me up on this) but I personally can only confirm that for me, the worst percentage was 93%. Now I do note that Lander says that 85% is too low to count as one of the runs. Foggy's comment is interesting and I may have to go double check his ascension history to verify he didn't miscount. Istanbul has told me his lowest was 95 or 96%, which is higher than mine.

Therefore, based on Lander's and my posts, I would say the threshold is between 85-93% inclusive. Now, who's got numbers that can help us refine it? --Ashallond 22:01, 25 September 2007 (CDT)

Apparently I did miscount...right now I have nine familiars with a 100% usage, 1 with a high of 97%, and 1 with a high of 87%. I just qualified for the trophy on my last run (a 100% goodfella), so the percentage should be higher than 87%.--Foggy 11:06, 25 September 2007 (CDT)

Ok, so based on my formerly unsigned post, and Foggy's miscount and subsequent note, The range is lowered to 87-93% inclusive.

I have an 88% sleazy gravy fairy run that didn't count towards the 10 familiars when I got the trophy. --FFL2 23:17, 27 September 2007 (CDT)

Thanks a lot. The range is now 89%-93%. --Ashallond 20:54, 28 September 2007 (CDT)

I have 9 100% runs and 1 94% sombrero (and no other sombrero runs) run. I have not qualified for the trophy. --Glebs 12:32, 07 October 2007 (PDT)

Actually you don't. Hare, Shaman, Troll, Wizard, Hobo, Penguin, Sombrero (94%), Doppel, and Tick are the only runs you have above 90%. Makes 9. ;) --Ashallond 18:04, 7 October 2007 (CDT)

Whoops. All this time, I thought I had a 100% CPM run. Nevermind then. --Glebs 15:07 09 October 2007 (PDT)

make me love you again glebs...do a 90% run for me. :) --Ashallond 17:18, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

Based on my recent ascension, I'd say that we should be looking at this in the same way as the weight familiar trophies. This is my current set of ascensions and the familiar percentages.
Blood-Faced Volleyball (37%)
Hovering Sombrero (81%)
Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot (98%)
Sleazy Gravy Fairy (100%)
Spooky Gravy Fairy (100%)
Flaming Gravy Fairy (100%)
Stinky Gravy Fairy (100%)
Frozen Gravy Fairy (100%)
Misshapen Animal Skeleton (100%)
Star Starfish (100%)
Cocoabo (100%)

Going by [10 famailiars at XX %], I should not qualify, but when I visit the trophy hut, the Amateur Tour Guide trophy is available for me.
I actually took the Hovering Sombrero with me on this run since I was assuming that the previous run did not have the necessary percentage.
Based on what I see on my run, I'd say that we're looking at a certain total of percentages (say 1000%, 3000% and maybe 5000%), probably just like the familiar weight trophies. --Groodude 16:50, 10 December 2007 (CST)

You have several sombrero runs over 90% in your pre-NS13 ascension records. That's what made you eligible..--GoldS 17:13, 10 December 2007 (CST)

I finally qualified for this trophy on my hardcore account (MelaJade1). I had 10 runs over 90% with the last one exactly 90%. My highest non-qualifying run was 89%. Disregarding any rounding weirdness, I think we can safely say the 90% mark is proven. --Melanti 08:30, 23 May 2008 (CDT)

Run Quality

• do casual runs count towards the total? --Evilkolbot 01:30, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
  • Yes. I did 8 of my 10 runs in casual. --Ashallond 20:54, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
    • and mr store familiars count, too? --Evilkolbot 06:55, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
      • Yes. Mr.Store/non-Mr.Store appears to have nothing to do with the count. --Ashallond 16:48, 2 October 2007 (CDT)

Way to Check

• Is there an easy way to check the percentage of familiar use of the ascension you're in? --Iason 02:45, 30 October 2007 (CDT)
  • No, you have to keep track of it manually if you're shooting for an exact percentage. Worse, because it onyl counts combats, you can't even use the adventure counter on your char page. --Deusnoctum 14:00, 3 December 2007 (CST)
    • you should be able to come pretty close by comparing the experience of your familiars to each other and come pretty close, no? (except for arena turns, white hearts, combats without familiars, doppleganger, etc.) as long as you arent using stuff like that you should be able to come pretty close. --charred 21:19, 4 January 2008 (CST)

Which familiar percentage counts?

I can verify that the familiar percentage up to freeing Ralph counts for this trophy. Had 9 90%+ runs before this run, started after the relevant update, and just freed Ralph and this trophy was available. I do not know if a run that is sub-90% upon freeing ralph but becomes 90%+ after freeing ralph might also count. I would suspect not, though. --Flargen 05:36, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Did you buy the trophy? It would be good to verify that it's still available if your history contains 10 runs which are 90%+ pre-Ralph, but one or more of them drop to sub-90% in the post-Ralph stage. --Umma 20:21, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I had a run that was above 90% at freeing the king, fell below 90% before I ascended, but it counted towards the total.--Tingly 08:30, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

• be aware, though, that the black cat qualifying number is the second one. --Evilkolbot 11:17, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Still Available?

So I now have 16 (going on 17) different 90%+ familiars, still no trophy - what am I missing? Snarfies 18:36, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

• You seem to already have the trophy in your game profile... --Fig bucket 18:46, 2 April 2010 (UTC)