Talk:Artistic Goth Kid
Last name? - Is this actually a combination of third and fourth names? it seems like there are a lot of repeated first/second parts.--Sceptre boy 09:36, 1 June 2012 (CEST)
Would it be worth while to attempt to make a table that connects monster fought with the drawing you fight next? --Sisterfisster 17:59, 1 June 2012 (CEST)
- According to http://forums.kingdomofloathing.com/vb/showpost.php?p=4197866&postcount=148 it's phylum => drawing fought. That sounds worthwhile. I'm not so good at wiki formatting, but humanoid => Black Crayon Man. --Lostcalpolydude 17:37, 2 June 2012 (CEST)
"Then it gives your opponent a relaxing deep-tissue massage." Does this have an effect, perhaps to calm down a monster that's flipping out? --Yunatwilight 06:14, 6 June 2012 (CEST)
Formula for fights without the mannequin on: ( n³ - 3n² + 44n ) / 6 + [ max(n-3,0)² + max(n-3,0) + max(n-6,0)² + max(n-6,0) + max(n-9,0)² + max(n-9,0) + max(n-12,0)² + max(n-12,0) ]/2 . Perhaps someone can find a less messy way of putting that on the actual page. --Lostcalpolydude 10:57, 14 July 2012 (CEST)
Arena stats
Article says "2 olives" (average) for goth kid in Ultimate Cage Match. My 22 lb. goth kid just lost twice to the 15-lb. goat in the arena.
- Nate 'Alastair' Dreadstein struggles for 18 rounds, but is eventually knocked out.
I forgot how many rounds the first one was. Somewhere around 17-19 I think.
If the goth kid is average, then my "Fy" should be 1d5+22, or 23-27. The goat (3 olives) should have "Fh" = 1d5+18, or 19-23. If ties go to me (which is what the Ultimate Cage Match pages says), then I should never lose (worst case, 1 in 25, we both get 23 points and I win the tie). So the goth kid is not average in this event. Obviously not strong either. Can't be "unable to compete" because there was no message (and I wouldn't have lasted 18 rounds). So he must be "weak". --Greycat (talk) 18:12, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Mathz on Bonus Fights
I think I found out how the bonus fight mechanic is calculated:
- You get +3 points per combat.
- If you have the mannequin equipped, then you gain an additional +1 point per combat.
- Once you have 2*X^2 -2*X +20 points (where X is the number of fights you already gained today), you gain an extra fight, and your points are reset to 0.
So, with a Mannequin:
| Extra Fight # | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Points Needed | 20 | 20 | 24 | 32 | 44 | 60 | 80 | 104 | 132 | 164 | 200 | 240 | 284 | 332 | 384 |
| Add'l Combats | 5 | 5 | 6 | 8 | 11 | 15 | 20 | 26 | 33 | 41 | 50 | 60 | 71 | 83 | 96 |
| Total Combats | 5 | 10 | 16 | 24 | 35 | 50 | 70 | 96 | 129 | 170 | 220 | 280 | 351 | 434 | 530 |
Yay, it matches what's on the page!
Without a Mannequin, we get:
| Extra Fight # | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Points Needed | 20 | 20 | 24 | 32 | 44 | 60 | 80 | 104 | 132 | 164 | 200 | 240 | 284 | 332 | 384 |
| Add'l Combats | 6.7 | 6.7 | 8 | 10.7 | 14.7 | 20 | 26.7 | 34.7 | 44 | 54.7 | 66.7 | 80 | 94.7 | 110.7 | 128 |
You can't have a partial combat, so this gets rounded up. So:
| Extra Fight # | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Points Needed | 20 | 20 | 24 | 32 | 44 | 60 | 80 | 104 | 132 | 164 | 200 | 240 | 284 | 332 | 384 |
| Add'l Combats | 7 | 7 | 8 | 11 | 15 | 20 | 27 | 35 | 44 | 55 | 67 | 80 | 95 | 111 | 128 |
| Total Combats | 7 | 14 | 22 | 33 | 48 | 68 | 95 | 130 | 174 | 229 | 296 | 376 | 471 | 582 | 710 |
Which again matches what's on the page! Spading complete!
That last part about your points being reset to 0 is what's important, and what's been tripping me up every time I tried this before. So the fourth bonus fight requires a total of 20+20+24+32=96 points, but you can't get it in 96/3=32 non-Mannequin combats 'cause the remainders keep getting thrown away.
Anyway, now that I'm done having fun: does this need to be put in the page anywhere? It's complicated and mathzy, so it'd probably confuse people. The only time it should matter is if you spend some turns with the Mannequin and some without, and that's a niche case that shouldn't really matter. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 04:05, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
