Talk:Avatar of Jarlsberg/Strategy

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If you have the GameInform... subscription, to get the puddingskin benefit mentioned in the page, then it might be worth noting that the Gauntlets of the Blood Moon are a mighty nice +HP item. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 23:03, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Anyone know a good 0-skill skill set? --JohnAnon (talk) 20:19, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Chunky Mary

Chunky has the same turn/drunk gain as most the 3 potency drinks, and unlike everything but the Lambic, no +Myst stats. The Lambic would be the best booze, with a whopping stat gain.

But Chunky makes the best nightcap. Drink 1 Chunky, all the Lambics you can make, then any 3 potency booze up to 19 drunk, and cap with another Chunky, and you'll never have to drink mediocre lagers. LizardKing (talk) 05:23, 27 March 2013 (UTC)


Skill discussion

This category is for discussion specific skill paths skill by skill

Turngen Optimization - Ultimate Breakfast Sandwich First Jarlsberg Ascension

  • This plan is not meant to be the optimal way to play. Rather, it is looking for the fastest growth of turngen (which is not optimal) to establish a baseline. This is both for comparing against deviations that cut turns, as well as having some guideline to return to after done picking those turn savings options.
  • This plan is usable even for your first Jarlsberg attempt. The levels listed below are for your first attempt at Jarlsberg (3 skillpoints at level 1), if this is not your first attempt then subtract 1 level per softcore and 2 levels per hardcore ascension completed.
  • Use your judgement on when you can afford to make staves from conjured foods. You should expect to have some spares.
  • This assumes you do not have the jarlsberg IOTM
  • You start out being able to summon 6x mediocre lagers a day that give 1 adv/drunk. You will actually be using them a lot during your first ascension as you yet lack the ability to produce something better. (that comes in future ascensions or if you play beyond level 13)
  • boil (1 skillpoint, level 1): a prereq for the skill "the most important meal", needed for cooking both sublime stew and ultimate breakfast sandwich.
  • the most important meal (2 skillpoints, level 1): The first eaten thing gives +3 Adv/Full as well as 3x stats. Even a bad food like consumate baked potato goes from giving 6 adv for 4 fullness, to giving 18 adv (+12). While an ultimate breaktfast sandwich goes from 35 adv for 7 fullness to 56 adventures (+21).
  • bake (3 skillpoints, level 1): needed for sublime stew, prereq for skills needed for sublime stew and ultimate breakfast sandwich.
  • conjure potato (4 skillpoints, level 2): used by sublime stew, making vodka, and prereq for skills needed for ultimate breakfast sandwich. you can now eat a daily diet of 2x baked potato (18+6=24 adv with TMIM), and drink 1 acceptable vodka (4.5 adv) and 3 mediocre lager (6 adv), with nightcap of mediocre lager (2 adv) = 36.5 adv total. Don't do it though, get to a higher level first before being forced to eat to continue.
  • conjure meat product (5 skillpoints, level 3): used by both sublime stew and ultimate breakfast sandwch, as well as prereq.
  • never late for dinner (6 skillpoints, level 4): +50 initiative is very useful in this path, also +10 adv/day on rollover is a lot of turngen for this path. Increasing your turngen to 46.5 adv/day.
  • grill (7 skillpoint, level 5): used for sublime stew. You can now cook your steaks, so your daily meals improve to 2x consummate steak (18+6=24 adv), and 3x acceptable vodka (13.5 adv), with nightcap of mediocre lager (2 adv), +10 rollover. Total turngen of 49.5 adv/day
  • conjure vegetable (8 skillpoints, level 6): You can now cook sublime stew. Your daily consumption is now a sublime stew with TMIM (42 adv), a consumate steak (6 adv), 2x das sauerlager (9 adv), 1x acceptable vodka (4.5 adv), and mediocre lager nightcap (2 adv), +10 rollover. Total 73.5 adv/day.
    • with liver of steel change drinks to 2x das sauerlager (9 adv), 4x mediocre lager (8 adv), nightcap acceptable vodka (4.5 adv), total 79.5 adv/day.
  • chop (9 skillpoints, level 7): used for vodka dog and prereq. no changes.
  • slice (10 skillpoints, level 8): used for ultimate breakfast sandwich, and prereq. no changes.
  • Lunch like a king (11 skillpoints, level 9): increase your stomach by +5. Your daily consumption is now 2x sublime stew (42+24=66 adv), 1x consumate salad (4.5 adv), 1 acceptable vodka (4.5 adv), 3x mediocre lager (6 adv), and nightcap of mediocre lager (2 adv). +10 rollover. total turngen 93 adv/day.
    • with liver of steel change drinks to 7x mediocre lager (14 adv), and nightcap of 1 acceptable vodka (4.5 adv), total 99 adv/day. Note that this is consuming 1 more mediocre lager than you produce a day, but you should have some spare from previous days.
  • conjure eggs (12 skillpoints, level 10): needed for ultimate breakfast sandwich and prereq. also replaces the consumate salad by a consummate hard-boiled egg and thus use your last vegetable to upgrade your nightcap from mediocre lager to das sauerlager, adding 1.5 adv/day. total of 94.5 adv/day.
    • with liver of steel you drink 1x das sauerlager (4.5 adv), 1x acceptable vodka (4.5 adv), 4x mediocre lager (8 adv), nightcap mediocre lager (2 adv). total 99.5 adv/day.
  • conjure dough (13 skillpoints, level 11): needed for ultimate breakfast sandwich. unlocks vodka dog drink. unlocks passable stout. daily consumption now 2x sublime stew (42+24=66 adv), 1x consummate hard-boiled egg (4.5 adv), 1x vodka dog (9 adv), 3x mediocre lager (6 adv), and nightcap of das sauerlager (4.5 adv). +10 rollover. total 100 adv/day.
    • with liver of steel you drink 1x vodka dog (9 adv), 1x das sauerlager (4.5 adv), 2x passable stout (9 adv), 1x mediocre lager (2 adv), nightcap mediocre lager (2 adv). total 107 adv/day
  • conjure cheese (14 skillpoints, level 12). used by ultimate breakfast sandwich. can now make a staff that banishes 5 times per day.
  • fry (15 skillpoints, level 13): can now make ultimate breakfast sandwich! daily consumption is now 2x Ultimate breakfast sandwich (91 adv), waste 1 fullness because a consumate sauerkraut (1 adv, 1 full) is not worth losing the vegetable that can be used for a das sauerlager (without liver of steel). drink 1x vodka dog (9 adv), 1x das sauerlager (4.5 adv), 1x passable stout (4.5 adv), nightcap mediocre lager (2 adv). +10 rollover. total 121 adv/day.
    • with liver of steel: consume 2x Ultimate breakfast sandwich (91 adv), waste 1 fullness, 1x vodka dog (9 adv), 1x das sauerlager (4.5 adv), 4x mediocre lager (8 adv), nightcap passable stout (4.5 adv). total 127.
  • conjure fruit (16 skillpoints, level 14). unlocks "le roi" and "over easy rider" thanks to fry, egg, and potato. unlocks "Nachojito" thanks to summon cheese and bake. All 3 unlocks are size 3 drinks that give 9 adv. Thanks to ultimate breakfast sandwich freeing freeing up some ingredients. with a liver of steel consume: 2x Ultimate breakfast sandwich (91 adv), 1x sauerkraut (1 adv), 1x vodka dog (9 adv), 1x nachojito (9 adv), 2x le roi (9 adv), 1x mediocre lager (2 adv), nightcap mediocre lager (2 adv). +10 rollover. total 142 adv/day.
    • may replace one of the le roi's with an over easy rider until you get eggman.

Feedback on the above plan appreciated. (in turms of turngen; I know I can snag some turn saving skills that can do better overall) --Taltamir (talk) 09:11, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

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