Talk:Divine cracker
You pull the ends of the cracker, and it makes a loud noise. Your opponent looks a little shaken up. And hey, it looks like the cracker had a prize inside it! Or maybe this thing just got knocked loose from your opponent by the force of the sound. It's hard to tell. You acquire an item: cranberries [eat]
(I was fighting a zobmie as a level 4)--Wylin 22:31, 3 January 2008 (CST)
Awww, mine didn't have a toy or anything, just the opponent looks a little shaken up message.--Denarius 22:54, 3 January 2008 (CST)
Maybe it does something like pickpocketing skill? Where you get a drop from the monester. Did you get any items from the monester after you killed it? I tried the cracker but I recieved nothing either --Pakrat 23:03, 3 January 2008 (CST)
Mine contained an item that the monster I was fighting could drop. That appears to be the mechanic. Has anyone used theirs against a monster with no drop? Or a monster with a pickpocket only drop? --Dannyboy 00:06, 4 January 2008 (CST)
It seems that item drop perecent doesn't effect the percent that an item will drop when this item is used.--Pakrat 01:13, 4 January 2008 (CST)
If you get an item from the Cracker, can it still be dropped at combat's end? --Rodger Flint 05:12, 4 January 2008 (CST)
So far my expierence has said no. For looking at percent of chance of getting an item. So far I used 4 and got 2 items from it. People feel free to add their numbers here. --Pakrat 09:43, 4 January 2008 (CST)
I'm going to test this more when I have crackers to work with but has anyone used this item and recieved an item that normaly is only dropped if the pick pocketing skill is used?--Pakrat 15:06, 4 January 2008 (CST)
Statistics
They're a bit expensive to test in mass numbers right now, but here are some quick stats:
- Beans from beanbats: 11011011
- Chalkdust from wraiths: 1111
Both consistent with the pickpocket mechanic. --Starwed 13:08, 4 January 2008 (CST)
At the inexplicable door, I tested yoinking and then using a divine cracker. In each case the pickpocket worked, the cracker didn't. (Sample size 4) There might be a hard cap on this effect...
Also, I saw a delevel ranging from -10 to -12 ML. (Again, sample size 4) --Starwed 13:18, 4 January 2008 (CST)
4 times in 23 at clingy pirates. --Eniteris 12:59, 18 February 2008 (CST)
Not sure that this needed spading, but it seems you can only steal from a monster once per combat. However, if you fail, you may still potentially steal from it later in the combat.
As an example, with 135% bonus (not including the divine cracker's bonus):
Drum Machine Encounter: giant sandworm Strategy: C:\Users\Owner\Desktop\ccs\duke'em.ccs [default] Round 0: AsianicGypsy wins initiative! Round 1: AsianicGypsy casts SPRING RAINDROP ATTACK! You gain 16 hit points You gain 18 Muscularity Points Round 2: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 3: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 4: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! You acquire an item: spices Round 5: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 6: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 7: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 8: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 9: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 10: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 11: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 12: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 13: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 14: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 15: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 16: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 17: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 18: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 19: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 20: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 21: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 22: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 23: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 24: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 25: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 26: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 27: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! Round 28: AsianicGypsy uses the divine cracker and uses the divine cracker! You gain 437 Meat You acquire an item: spices You gain 26 Fortitude You gain 8 Mysteriousness You gain a Mysticality point! You gain 17 Sarcasm Finished using 1 drum machine.--JP 08:59, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Gaijin
The "immortal gaijin" reference is probably from the tv show Heroes. Adam Monroe is Takezo Kensei, a fabled japanese hero whom Hiro met when he traveled back on time. Hiro discovers that his beloved Kensei was an englishman with the power of regeneration (Hiro himself called Kensei a "gaijin" the first time they met). Due to his power, Adam was able to survive for 400 years without aging, becoming immortal. Ryuuta 21:21, 5 January 2008 (CST)
Forgot to add - Adam also regards himself as a god. He's tried to unleash plagues in order to save the world and purify it. I guess that's why he was mentioned in a divine item. :P Ryuuta 21:25, 5 January 2008 (CST)
- Doubtful. Gaijin could be referenced from any number of sources to which geeks can access. For instance Gaijin was discussed at length in the film/book Rising Sun.Ludomonster
mote
Can you use this to get the frigid mote familiar?--Blood panther 22:56, 25 January 2008 (CST)
Also, can this be used to gain other pickpocket-only items? --Devion 20:30, 2 February 2008 (CST)
I used a cracker on 70 ninja weaponmasters with no frigid mote drops, so I would assume that means that it cannot get pickpocket only items.--Manendra 21:12, 12 June 2008 (CDT)
Used a handful of these in the Hobopolis Sewers and I have yet to see chum drop from a cracker --Shoptroll 09:32, 10 July 2008 (CDT)
Data
I set about gathering some data from the ratbats. Results so far:
- Ratbats crackered: 145
- 37 rat appendix, 28 ratguts, 0 ratarangs
--Starwed 02:25, 27 February 2008 (CST)
Currently, crackering ratarangs is heavily disfavored: about a 0.05% chance, if it works like pickpocket. And if it doesn't, is there really any reason to thing ratarangs might be obtained? --Starwed 22:53, 28 February 2008 (CST)
Additional data from AFH forums with beanbats:
- Antipasta: 27/30
- QNM: 115/145
That's a rate of 81%, instead of 50%.
My data above gives rates of 25% and 19%, rather than a base of a bit less than 15%. Note that both the enchanted bean and appendix data give about a 1.6× boost compare to the base rate. It's conceivable that, unlike pickpocket, it's going in a set order: if appendices were prioritized over guts, you'd expect to see only an 18% rate of getting the guts. (And a really, really low rate of ratarangs.) The best place to check this is tavern rats. --Starwed 22:16, 11 March 2008 (CDT)
After 60 crackers used, it would appear that Chum C.H.U.M. is not attainable with a cracker.--Narc 23:48, 17 August 2008 (CDT)
