Talk:Giant sandworm
"You really should have been walking without rhythm..." is a reference to Fat Boy Slim's "Weapon of Choice" Lyrics to song
Apologies for not adding it to the page, however I think I'd booch it somehow. --DeejValen 23:15, 26 June 2007 (CDT)
It quite possibly is a reference to the song lyrics, however, the song lyrics themselves are a reference to Dune - the Fremen walk using irregular, shuffling movements to avoid attracting sandworms.
--Draconis 11:48, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
- Yeah - yay literacy, huh? 9_9 --Id the Mildly Confused 20:04, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
Surely telling us we can fight this monster while drunk is more of a note than a reference yes? :P --Leonyth 20:17, 8 July 2007 (CDT)
just fyi - attacking the worm with spices? doesn't do so much. --stepinrazor 20:36, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
Wouldn't a better strategy be attacking with some water? That's what kills sandworms, and that's how Duncan Idaho killed Leto II.--Zolar the czakl 19:54, 15 August 2007 (CDT)
- Water pipe bomb does nothing special.--Zolar the czakl 19:54, 15 August 2007 (CDT)
Meat Drops
Just for 20 encounters so far. No Worries in effect for the first ten, no effects for the second ten.
236, 235, 242, 253, 237, 227, 272, 244, 272, 253, 234, 245, 239, 233, 272, 259, 262, 243, 258, 221 --Foggy 09:01, 13 September 2007 (CDT)
- I just battled 15 of these guys with +449% meat drop. Here are my meat drop results:
1515, 1444, 1427, 1147, 1296, 1460, 1213, 1581, 1394, 1350, 1367, 1263, 1493, 1241, 1411
I'm not too good at crunching numbers, so maybe one of you math whizzes out there in the internet can figure out what those translate to without my bonus.--Knobula 19:01, 11 January 2008 (CST)
173 worms... 87% meat find. Lowest was 385. Highest was 555. average was 465.2790698--Dreamthief 02:42, 15 July 2008 (CDT)
257 worms... 87% meat find. Lowest was 377. Highest was 559. average was 469.1210938 --Dreamthief 01:46, 16 July 2008 (CDT)
Out of hundreds of encounters, accounting for the meat drop bonus, I've seen a range of 200 to 299. I haven't yet seen 300, though there's some more data I'll be able to access later today, and I plan on fighting worms possibly for another 3 weeks to collect melange data, as long as melange prices don't crash too much more. --EEpiccolo 16:38, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Over ~2500 samples the max is still 299, though that could be just be bad RNG. IIRC, meat drops are the sum of two uniform random samples, resulting in a triangular distribution, which I saw when I ploted the data. If that's true, It's just a 1 in 2500 chance of getting the maximum, anyway. I'll keep looking. --EEpiccolo 03:06, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Spice Drops
27 adventues with a drum. Running +230% item-find. Received 22 spices and 1 spice melange. I never received more than 2 spices per kill. I know, not much in the way of spading, but this should get the column started. --Dibbin 20:39, 4 July 2008 (CDT)
Wow man, I must have bad RNG, cuz I spent 40 adventures with a drum with a +335% item rate and I got no spice melanges. :( and on a spice-related note, I found 59 spices. --Lemon-claw 01:09, 5 July 2008 (CDT)
- The melanges are rare. Dibbin got lucky. --Flargen 01:46, 5 July 2008 (CDT)
How rare? Is it very rare, or rary rare? ;p Item drops rates are awesome. Post them if you got them. --Lemon-claw 02:28, 5 July 2008 (CDT)
- Just going by what the update said and general impressions from others. Plus the general lack of melanges in the mall. --Flargen 02:32, 5 July 2008 (CDT)
- I got two spice melanges in my first twenty, then none for my remaining fourty or so (with items and equipment totalling +135%, or a 1.27% drop rate). Also got three spices exactly once. --Cnorgard 03:13, 5 July 2008 (CDT)
20 drum machines / sandworms with +211 2/3% item drops: 19 spices, 0 spice melange.--StDoodle 09:20, 5 July 2008 (CDT)
289 sandworms, +379% item drop, 2 spice melanges.--Antimarty 13:00, 6 July 2008 (CDT)
165 sandworms, +363% item drop, 1 melange
81 sandworms, +363% item drops, 1 melange --Antimarty 11:41, 8 July 2008 (CDT)
200 sandworms, 240% item drop, 227 spices, not one bloody melange --Langsuir 15:22, 6 July 2008 (CDT)
91 sandworms, 251.33% drop, 0 drops x 22, 1 spice x 43, 2 spices x 23, 3 spices x 3, 91st worm dropped 1 spice and 1 melange. - Asinine 06:42, 14 July 2008 (CDT)
130 sandworms, +391.96% drop, 216 spices, 2 melanges. 0 drops x16, 1 spice x33, 1 spice + 1 melange x1, 2 spice x57, 2 spice + 1 melange x1, 3 spice x22. Melanges dropped on adventures 46 and 65. --Captainslowontheuptake 00:47, 15 July 2008 (CDT)
140 sandworms, +614.96% drop, 322 spices, 1 melange. 0 drops x1, 1 spice x17, 2 spice x60, 2 spice + 1 melange x1, 3 spice x61. Melange dropped on adventure 14. Yikes. --Captainslowontheuptake 15:28, 20 July 2008 (CDT)
173 worms 217% item find ... 156 spices, 1 spice melange--Dreamthief 02:40, 15 July 2008 (CDT)
257 worms 217% item find ... 253 spices, 0 spice melange--Dreamthief 01:45, 16 July 2008 (CDT)
5 worms, +19% item drop and 8-lb gravy fairy yielded 3 spices drops and no melange. --Atheoss 14:29, 21 July 2008 (CDT)
On a hunch, I tried using a drum machine for my semi-rare adventure. I did not get spice melange. --Lostcalpolydude 16:00, 21 July 2008 (CDT)
600 adventures@390% item- 927 spices, 0 melange.--Kaindragoon 14:29, 30 July 2008 (CDT)
40 worms, +450% item drop, 62 spice, 1 melange. 0 spice x 6, 1 spice x 10, 2 spice x 20, 3 spice x 4, got the melange on turn 19 (sorry didn't keep track of the # of spice that dropped with it). --Biffcool 14:48, 16 August 2008 (CDT)
Fought approx. 800 worms with +412% item drop. Zero melange. I am not happy. --Pantsless 22:34, 19 August 2008 (CDT)
Fought 560 worms with +392% item drop. 910 spices, 3 melange. Only thing different from above was not using Disco Concentration (and therefore the fights were shorter). RNG screw the first time, or some other mechanic at work? --Pantsless 17:12, 29 August 2008 (CDT)
157 sandworms, +490% item drops, 2 melanges, 259 spices --Larryboy 03:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
1231 drums, 220% item find, 4 melange, 1435 spices--Dreamthief 21:17, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Just tested yellow ray with He-Boulder. Spice melange didn't drop.--Firbaelvan 03:05, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
- Of course it didn't. All <1% drops are conditional. --Flargen 04:56, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Variations?
I just noticed that it seems there are two types of sandworms. I had reached the level where my moxie was just high enough to avoid most hits (currently at 186 buffed, +10ML), when I noticed that sometimes a worm will hit me for 19-21hps each round (typically, I might get hit once in a round for about 17-19). It seems that there could be two types of these worms, and one is slightly more powerful than the other. This could also throw a wrench in the drop rates, since if there are two worms, they could have differently assigned drops. Anyone else notice this? - Asinine 02:29, 19 August 2008 (CDT)
Since your moxie is "just high enough" to avoid most hits, I suspect you simply ran into the Monster Level Variance. In brief: Some monsters just happen to be a few levels higher than their kin. --Bale 02:42, 19 August 2008 (CDT)
- Hrm. I guess I was just distracted in hopes that I'd discovered something monumental. - Asinine 04:05, 21 August 2008 (CDT)
I got this adventure today when using a drum machine with worm hooks equipped. It took my worm hooks, so I had to complete the fight with no weapon. And shouldn't there be a listing for this as a combat adventure on the Extra-Dry Desert location page? --Frosty Beverage 16:31, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- It would be listed on the Desert page... If it occured there. While it does narratively, it actually occurs when you use a drum kit. Also, sounds like you used two drum kits by accident. --TechSmurf 17:43, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Statistics
| Era | Date | Encountered | spices | spice melange | Information | Source |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Era 1 | 22-30/Aug/09 | 2188 | 2675 | NR | Item Drop Bonus: +306.749372% | Eepiccolo |
| Era 2 | 13-.../Aug/09 | lots | NR | In progress | Item Drop Bonus: +306.749372% | Eepiccolo |
Grammar error?
The term "out-skeeved" seems to be an error. Proper use of the term is "skeeved-out", meaning "grossed out" or "disgusted". --Rick Tyger (talk) 01:12, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- TPTB go to comical lengths to avoid ending a sentence with a preposition, though usually it's more highlighted. (Note that not ending a sentence with a preposition is a style rule, not a grammatical rule, and should only be followed in formal communication -- check Strunk & White. TPTB are doing it as a joke.) --BaronessRatsworth (talk) 17:16, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
