Talk:Imitation crab meat

Against crabs... does it only include cargo and mine crabs? how about Booty crab? --Hrag 22:06, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

If used against a mine crab, it detonates, so don't bother. It seemed like a promising possibility - an otherwise not terribly useful consumable that ostensibly kills it's target from within, but the mine crab just blew up, which is easy enough to do without wasting a consumable. --Noskilz 03:21, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I edited the page to reflect that it's effective against certain non-crabs as well. This was after successfully getting a Mer-kin scavenger to eat one. --Dkohler 02:37, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Wait...so against crab-eating enemies, it doesn't eat it, but instead hits you in the face, but non crab-eating enemies eat it? That doesn't make sense...maybe it's crab vs non-crab, and not crab-eating? --Jimfromtx 06:08, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Maybe it's just against underwater monsters. Meh, we just should keep track against whoom it worked and not worked... --Hrag 17:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, all the fish in the briny deeps ate it, as did the stranglin' algae and sponge. So I'm guessing anything underwater will eat them. --Prestige 02:09, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I think I can confirm that being underwater in the important thing. I copied a drowned sailor with spooky putty and tried to use this on him. It didn't work. Normally they're susceptible.

Does it always do exactly 23 damage, or is there a range?Argus 09:38, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

• Some data on self-damage...

10,11,11,10,10,11. My guess is that its based on the monster. This was a knob goblin very mad scientist. I'll be doing some testing against various monsters to prove this theory.--Alabit 10:56, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

• Yeah, strange stuff. against drunken half-orc hobo:"You gain 0 hit point." So, yeah, its probably based on monster ML.--Alabit 11:04, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
• sabre-toothed ferret: 49,54,59,51,49,49,61,55,60,62,62,50,57,60
• tomb bat: 41,36,44,31,36,44,36,41,39,36,43,37
• Flaming Troll: 21,17,20,20,16,17,19,16,16,17,20,20
• slick lihc: 13,12,13,13,14,14,13,12,13,12,15,13
• topiary golem: 51,54,50,56,57,53,49,51,55,53,59,48,54
• irate mariachi: 4,4,4,5,5,5,5,4,5,5,4,5
• possessed can of tomatoes: "You gain 0 hit point." 10 times
• zombie chef: 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1
• Somebody with a good eye might be able to figure out a formula here..And if any more data is requested, I'm happy to burn turns and hp to spade it out.--Alabit 11:17, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
• More data, at low MLs.
• ML(1-3)=0
• ML(4)=1/0
• ML(5-7)=1
• ML(8-9)=1/2
• ML(10-11)=2
• ML(12-14)=2/3
• ML(15)=3
• ML(16-19)=3/4
• ML(20)=4/5
• More data.--Alabit 12:30, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
  • 20-25%, rounded down?

using against out of water mer-kin miner(putty) gave me this (118 hp damage and ouch) had +48 ML. --Brion thenotgiant 22:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I can confirm all of the above after some testing on sandworms, black pudding, cavewomyn, bean counters, fluffy rabbits, and fluffy rabbits + 18ML. For all of the monsters, it does appear to be related to 20% to 25% Monster Level, rounded down.

What's interesting is that I tried the following on two ferrets: I used my muscle-boosting bang potion 3 times on the ferret, and then crab meat, and lost 83 HP, much higher than I would expect. On a second ferret, I used my moxie-boosting bang potion 3 times, and then crab meat, and lost 60 HP, the amount I would expect. I repeated the process with a caveman hippy. After 4 moxie-boosters, I was still only doing 53 HP damage to myself; 4 muscle-boosters later, and I was doing 80ish damage.--Foggy 20:55, 11 September 2009 (UTC)