Talk:Inside of Itznotyerzitz Mine

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My patterns were:

LCmxAA
LCC.!A
LC0.!A
L!000.
..m.x0
0m!x0.

aaxcll 
aa.ccl 
m...cl 
....!m 
.....m
....xx

aallcc
aa!lcc
x..l0.
.m..x!
.m...x
.m.!.!

lmcaa!
llccaa
lx.c.m
..x!..
x00!..
..m..!

L-linoleum, C-chrome, A-asbestos, m-meatstacks, x-xtreme stone, !-cave in, 0-nothing, .-not tested All non-sparkling squares are empty. Sparkling squares can contain anything.

Please notice that all the ores are in the top part of mine, and are clumped together.

I guess that first are the cave-ins, stones and meatstacks randomized accross the mine. And then there are three kinds of ore put there to fill the spaces at the top of the mine.

--JanoSicek 01:57, 26 January 2006 (Central Standard Time)


In every mine, there is also only 4 Cave-ins, 3 Meat Stacks, 3 eXtreme Stones, and 4 of each Ore, with the rest being filled up with empty rock -- Kittiwake - 3:37, 26 January 2006 (Central Standard Time)

I am pretty sure that "You start digging. You hit the rock with all your might.

You succeed in cutting away some rock."

Is a direct quote from Nethack from when you use the pickaxe. Could someone verify this?--Hamelin 11:41, 26 January 2006 (Central Standard Time)

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, there are two spaces between the sentences in NetHack. --Ihope127 20:04, 14 December 2006 (CST)

I checked the Nethack code and that's exactly the same lines I see. In Nethack you can also dig with a Dwarven Mattack (like KoL uses). Here's my pattern:

.CCALL
xCCALL
m.AA..
.!xmx.
.!!.O.
....!m

L..ACC
L.AAAC
L.!..C
Lmx.xm
.O!!.m
x!....

This continues the trend of four of each ore being contiguous and near the top. --Crowther 15:31, 26 January 2006 (Central Standard Time)

I mined a porquoise out of an non-shiny square in my first cavern i didn't managed to get the text though but it is there -IDC

  • I think that's a load of crap...but that's just me
..CCCL
AAAC.L
A!.xLL
.m...x
!.mm..
!!.x..

LLAA..
LLAAxC
.xm.CC
.!...C
!..mm.
x.!..!

LLx!CC
LAAAxC
L!.A.C
.....m
!m....
!.x.m.

These are my results. Pretty much confirms what everyone else has seen. 4 of each ore, and 3 eXtreme stones. Generally, nothing in the 1st two rows, minimal in the 3rd, and heavy in the last 2. I've also noticed that they form either and L, box, or T pattern. So there is a way to maximize your mining, once you've found it out. Kinda.--digitrev 21:44, 2 February 2006 (Central Standard Time)

L-MCCC
LLAAC-
L--AXH
H-XA-M
H---M-
-XH---

-AC-LL
-ACCCL
XAAMXL
---X--
H--HM-
H-HM--

LL-MCC
-LLACC
-X-AA-
---AH-
-HXX--
M--HM-

My results were exactly the same: 4 cave-ins (H), 3 meat stacks, 3 extremes, and 4 each of the ores. I've updated the page to reflect this information.--Foggy 19 June 2006

Mine Image

Just testing out a way to show an actual map:

Rocky WallRocky WallRocky WallRocky Wall Rocky WallRocky WallRocky WallRocky Wall
Rocky WallRocky WallRocky WallRocky Wall Rocky WallRocky WallRocky WallRocky Wall
Rocky WallRocky WallRocky WallRocky Wall Rocky WallRocky WallRocky WallRocky Wall
Rocky WallRocky WallRocky WallRocky Wall Rocky WallRocky WallRocky WallRocky Wall
Rocky WallRocky WallRocky WallRocky Wall Rocky WallRocky WallRocky WallRocky Wall
Rocky WallRocky WallRocky WallRocky Wall Rocky WallRocky WallRocky WallRocky Wall
Rocky WallPromising Chunk of WallPromising Chunk of WallRocky Wall Promising Chunk of WallPromising Chunk of WallPromising Chunk of WallRocky Wall
Rocky WallOpen CavernOpen CavernOpen Cavern Open CavernOpen CavernOpen CavernRocky Wall

--Quietust 10:00, 19 June 2006 (CDT)

  • The wiki parser doesn't allow URLs in inline styles. You could make a class in MediaWiki:Common.css for it... though that could be overkill... Working on HRWiki we made a patch for Sanitizer.php that'll fix it... if you can convince TPTB to install it, it's not as clean as an extension or anything like that... just ask if you want the details... Phlip 08:33, 26 June 2006 (CDT)
    • Aha! {{click}} gave me an idea, and it seems to work. The HTML is damn ugly, though... --Quietust 14:06, 10 July 2006 (CDT)
      • Evidently, you need to use <center></center> or embed it in a centered table in order to get this thing centered on the page - putting align="center" on the outer <div> doesn't cut it. --Quietust 10:38, 19 July 2006 (CDT)

Baconstone?

Does this actually happen? And if it does, when does it happen, how often does it occur, and does it drop hamethysts or porquoises as well? --Quietust 16:26, 26 July 2006 (CDT)

I moved the info below from the top of the discussion page. The information below is provided by the same user who added the baconstone adventure to the article.

In case anyone was wondering when i got the bacon stone from the mine, i had the mind control dealie set at 6 and march hare as my familar also

my Equipment was miner's helmet, 7-Foot Dwarven mattock, miner's pants, lucky rabbit's foot, porquoise necklace, baconstone ring. my Sign is The Platypus.

Skills:

Liver of Steel
Chronic Indigestion
Seal Clubbing Frenzy
Thrust-Smack
Tongue of the Otter
Hide of the Otter
Claws of the Otter
Eye of the Stoat (HP)
Double-Fisted Skull Smashing (HP)
Skin of the Leatherback (HP)
Empathy of the Newt (HP)
Amphibian Sympathy (HP)
Summon Snowcone (HP)
Summon Hilarious Objects (HP)
 

--Lord of ants 00:50, 23 July 2006 (CDT)

  • Did you get the baconstone while mining? The text makes it seem like you would get it while changing caverns. --Shima 19:41, 28 July 2006 (CDT)


yes i got the bacon stone while mining, and didnt note if it was a good or empty   
spot.  my personal feelings is it relates to the rabbits foot, but i am not sure.
--Lord_of_ants 8/1
Nevermind that i adventured over 400 adventures in the mines with my lvl13 multi 
and it had a lucky rabbits foot and got nothing.  anyone else think it could be  
realated to sign?  LoA is under The Platypus sign, and my other char is under The  
Vole
--Lord_of_ants 8/3

Sounds kinda like a clover adventure. Did you have any clovers on you when it happend? --Fireyflame 04:38, 4 September 2006 (CDT)

I will check it out tonight but i dont recall there being anything about a clover blowing up. I have been adventuring there with my multi well for over a month now and failed to get the same adventure perhaps its just a really rare adventure.--Lord of ants 21:17, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

clovers do not appear to do anything. --LoA 00:21, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

Just to keep you all in the loop i still do the complete mine several times and do not get the gem. its really really rare. --LoA 23:01, 21 December 2006 (CST)

I resurrected this page in the name of science! In 92 ascension's worth of mining, I've never, ever found a pork gem of any sort. Just to make sure, though, I completely cleared 4 caverns on a multi. Nada. I'm calling BS on it, especially since only one person's mentioned it, and they never showed any kind of solid proof. Removing it from the page. Also, while mining, I was vaguely keeping track of the cave-in damage, though I didn't copy any of it down. I'll get some solid numbers later. I had 178 HP, and the damage seemed to consistently fall within +-25% of that. I'll have to play around with my HP and see. --TechSmurf 18:04, 5 June 2007 (CDT)

Okay, just had it confirmed by a few people in my clan that pork gems do indeed drop, albeit incredibly rarely. --TechSmurf 18:22, 5 June 2007 (CDT)

131st ascension, spotted one for the first time. Got a Loadstone. It was where one of the chrome ores should have been, with the result that the remaining three chrome ores were no longer adjacent. This suggests there is a small chance of a rare being randomly added to the map after placing the other ores.--Darzil 13:05, 17 November 2012 (CET)

HP Loss

Max Lost %
258 152 59%
258 169 65%
227 240 105%
215 167 78%
228 201 88%
212 142 67%
212 220 103%
228 230 101%
228 154 67%
228 142 62%
243 235 103%
235 169 72%
235 201 85%
235 174 74%
274 138 48%
274 198 71%
235 139 59%

Seems to be a simply a very large range. The minimum and maximum damage still needs work.

Max HP Damage
605 500
605 664
605 438
605 491
605 505
605 375
605 366
605 524
605 649
605 539
605 673
605 510
Max HP Damage %
605 366-649 60.4%-107.27%

Oh, yeah, this. More data. --TechSmurf 03:40, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Mus Mys Mox Dmg Range
1 1 1 1, 1, 1 100%-100%
5 51 25 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8 80%-160%
6 51 25 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9 83.33%-150%
11 21 11 10, 10, 12, 13, 14, 14, 15, 15, 16 90.9%-145.45%
15 58 33 12, 12, 12, 12, 13, 14, 14, 15, 15, 15, 16, 16, 16, 17, 17, 18, 18, 19, 20, 20, 21, 22, 22 80%-146.66%
41 21 11 34, 34, 35, 35, 38, 39, 44, 45, 45, 46, 46, 50, 50, 52, 57, 57, 58, 60 83.92%-146.34%
56 89 67 52, 61, 64, 64, 68, 77, 81, 83 92.85%-148.21%
63 52 32 65, 85 103.17%-134.92%
82 88 66 88, 106, 107, 111 107.31%-135.36%

Damage is based upon muscle, regardless of main stat. Damage ranges from 75%-150% of muscle, rounded up. --TechSmurf 06:33, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Alterations

Did Jick and Co. change the vein of meat stack? I've only been getting one, instead of three, for the past two ascensions. BM has nothing to do with it, since I had previously did BM ascensions getting three meat stacks in each vein. More spading is neededArgus 05:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Confirmed. HCTT only got one meat stack, not three. Annoying, cause now I only get one/third the number of stacks. --Nyther Darken 20:16, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


Lumps of Diamond

lump of diamond now are able to be mined. Initial appearances seem to be that it is another type of ore (4 per cavern in contiguous locations), though currently appear to be useless.

Loadstone

I think the loadstone simply replaces the first ore you would have otherwise found. That seems to be the case whenever I mine straight up. It isn't the case with the lumps of diamond, for I did end up finding a lump of diamond first one time, but a loadstone soon after that. --Volc (talk) 14:58, 25 November 2013 (UTC)