Talk:Magic Dragonfish

I found this famliar by visiting the following page: http://www4.kingdomofloathing.com/desc_familiar.php?which=104 .. which was just basically Ricket style, manipulating the number in the URL. I hope I started the page correctly. --King2k5 10:27, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

• Yeah, you started it reasonably well. A couple of errors in passing in arguments, but nothing major. And adding in empty sections is generally considered bad form, but not something that's actually worth getting worked up over for a page that's just been started. And, interesting, yet another sea familiar. Presumably the hatchling drops from the magic dragonfish. Doesn't seem to be acquirable from the caviar. I guess it's a fairly rare drop. I had a multi farming down there for over 200 turns (with fishy), oflacting the dragonfish, and didn't get any hatchlings or other new items. --Flargen 12:52, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I was wondering if anyone tried fertalizing the caviar. Just like the ghoul egg. Cuz after all, caviar are fish eggs. sorry if this shows up completely wrong, this is my first ever post.--Darkmaiden 12:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

You can't just fertilize it! At least buy it a couple of drinks, or take it out for a nice meal first...--Jonbly 19:53, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

• It's not a meatpasting, cooking, or cocktailcrafting ingredient. Unless they just forgot to add the flag for it. --Flargen 12:59, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
  • And just in case they have: the caviar does not paste, cook, or smith with a displaced fish, fishy fish, dehydrated caviar, prismatic wad, or spooky-gro fertilizer. And that's all of the items that seemed like likely candidates to me. Other possibilities: eating a maki with dragonfish caviar on it might sometimes give the hatchling; the hatchling won't actually be produceable or dropable until the next zone is added; there's some less obvious ingredient to stick it together with. Or maybe something else altogether. Using certain abilities against the dragonfish? Pickpocket only maybe? --Flargen 13:15, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking, since it's a Pot related area, about using Hippy items on the enemies there. Water Pipe Bombs, Gas Balloons, etc. Either that, or trying to plant them in the Octopus Garden somehow. I'd try testing my ideas, but I can't access Madness Reef yet. I'll be kinda irritated in the off chance I end up being right, and I can't profit from it in any way. --OvenMasher 09:17c 18 December 2008 (EST?)

its image has changed to http://images.kingdomofloathing.com/itemimages/dragonfishfam.gif --Gothic Wonder 20:08 18 December 2008 (GMT)

Tried sowing it (the Caviar) as seeds in the Octopus Garden... no dice - Sowing seeds actually sows seeds, and sowing wild oats still makes you run away. Back to the hatching board.--Denarius 20:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I mentioned this in the Sushi thread, but the fact that one can now eat magical <adjective> dragon rolls seems important. I've tried this with the beefy and slick meat. Anybody wanna eat one made from glistening meat, possibly with The Colors... active?--Buttons 21:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Could we rename this to Magic Dragonfish (Familiar)? It is a monster too, and there is no disambiguation. The only way to find this page is by spelling it wrong or through a familiar listing. Also: What does it do? Why, oh why, has it sold in the mall for 7.5 million? We all know how to make it now, right?--caseyweederman 03:47, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

• The monster's name is "magic dragonfish" (all-lowercase), so they're not the same. Though it might be a good idea to put a Wikipedia-like "This article is about the Magic Dragonfish familiar; if you meant the monster, go here: magic dragonfish" tag on the article. It's still expensive because the ingredients needed to make the sushi are still relatively rare drops (thanks to the -item% in the sea), and the sushi-rolling mat is also expensive (300 sand dollars is going to cost a lot of time/advetures or meat to get), the drop is random even if you have the right sushi, and you only have a limited number of chances to get one per day due to Fullness. Finally, nobody seems to know what it does. I myself am guessing it has something to do with elemental resists (either increasing yours or lowering opponent's), but that's just pure speculation based on the apparent effect of The Colors.... - The Wrassedragon 17:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, so talking to the people who have the familiar have noticed that it increase elemental damage...Can anyone confirm this? --GreenAid3n555 03:38, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

From everything I've seen, you only get a familiar message if you're using spells. 30lb. familiar (empathy/leash/heavy petting) with the fin-bit wax equipped gives the following message when slinging a spell.

Out of water: "The moonlight glints off of Tronald's scintillating scales as he flops around in complicated patterns."

Underwater: "The moonlight glints off of Tronald's scintillating scales as he swims around in complicated patterns."

Multiple adventures under and out of water, attacking with a weapon, yields no message. --Lemonfresh 05:53, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

• The familiar doesn't appear to do anything when attacking with weapons. I didn't see any boost to elemental damage (prismatic). Since it only seems to act when casting spells, I'm wondering if it boosts spell damage or maybe elemental spell damage?
• I can confirm that this familiar is obtained by eating wise dragon rolls. I've eaten 7 and gotten one familiar. I've seen someone who's 0/15 and another who's 0/5. I've not seen anyone get the familiar eating a combination other than glistening/cucumber/caviar. --Lemonfresh 19:08, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I took my dragonfish and my wild hare into the sea tonight. I only spent 6 adventures on each but there is a definite difference in spell damage between the two.

• Dragonfish, weapon of the pasta lord, did the following damage: 1189, 1172, 1202
• Wild hare, weapon of the pasta lord, did the following damage: 822, 801, 809

I also tried with stuffed mortar shell and got the following...

• Dragonfish: 109, 77, 83
• Wild hare: 61, 77, 70

Hardly scientific, but there does seem to be something going on with spell damage. --Lemonfresh 06:53, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

My brief testing suggests the fish gives +2% spell damage per pound. Some figures:

• Ravioli shurikens (underwater): 18-23 with hound dog, 30-38 with 32 lb dragonfish, 33-42 with 41 lb dragonfish.

Don't have detailed results on other spells, because I'm out of adventures, but the results were similar. Also, I got mine from a beefy/carrot/caviar roll, after going 0-11 from glistening/cucumber/caviar rolls. —Yendor 17:16, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Some more data:

• Stream: 23-24 base, 29-31 at 13 lb, 32-33 at 18 lb, 34-36 at 23 lb, 36-38 at 28 lb, 36-38 at 50 lb.

I'm seeing similar stuff with other spells. It's additive with other percentage modifiers (so a 50 lb dragonfish plus a Staff of the Deepest Freeze is +300%). No apparent difference in the water or out of it. —Yendor 18:24, 23 December 2008 (UTC)