Talk:Maximizing Your Spell Damage

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Ring of Increase Damage

Shouldn't the Apathetic Lizardman have three rings of increase damage, since they stack? Or are we just suggesting he's too lazy to get 3?--Rikmach 04:08, 22 March 2006 (CST)

• Should the Apathetic Lizardman even have one ring of increase damage? They're quite expensive in the mall (currently over 24,000 meat) and the only other way to get one is by zapping another ring, which is probably beyond what they can be bothered to do. --Quietust 20:43, 9 April 2006 (CDT)

The cheapest right now is 1700, with plenty available around the 2000 mark. I guess they've dropped in value. That'd make it very easy for an apathetic lizardman to get 3.314159 13:13, 13 July 2007 (CDT)

Star Spatula is better than the Pizza Cutter

Uh, whomever can edit this, change the Oversized Pizza Cutter to Star Spatula, as it grants +15 spell damage.

Thanks, J_w_o —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 07:21, 17 August 2006 (CDT).

Lizardman's Utensil

What utensil do others think the Lizardman should be able to get his hands on? I'm leaning in favour of the Melon Baller.--Sakurabisu 09:29, 17 August 2006 (CDT)

Enchantlers

Should we add this item to any of the five? On one hand, they only work for hot spells... on the other hand, Flavour of Magic means you can do hot spells whenever you want, and we are trying to get the maximum. I think we should definately add it to Deity, probably to Villa, and possibly to Ascender. --Sel Ibrix 22:11, 4 September 2006 (CDT)

• Flavor of Magic only works on pastamancer spells, whereas most of the damage equations (dealing with Immaculate Seasoning and Intrinsic Spiciness) involve sauceror spells. Granted, with Immaculate Seasoning, the Enchantlers are marginally better.... but if it's a creature not weak to fire, they're worthless.--Katarani 23:53, 4 September 2006 (CDT)
  • Well when facing ice-based creatures, they're far better than any myst-altering hat so they might be worht mentioning, no? --Woemwoem 08:46, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

Spooky Spells?

As far as I can tell, a spell can't be both spooky and hot. Why are we including the damage boosts for both of them? And why is the final damage +30 for elemental instead of +20 or +32? --Sel Ibrix 23:15, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

• You're right about spells only being able to be one element. I assume that's why we're not including that in that absolute total. Instead, if one wants to use it they can choose which element to use (+20 for hot or +12 for spooky). And the +30 that you're seeing... I'm not seeing that, just the (20)(12). You may have been looking at the "x100 Spell Damage". --TheDotGamer 23:35, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

Kickback cookbook vs. Codex

Since the difference between the two is only 10, and the enchantlers and demonskin jacket together add 15, wouldn't the codex be better? Assuming you're not fighting hot monsters, of course. --Rachelkachel 13:42, 18 June 2007 (CDT)

Solid Baconstone Necklace

I think that the solid bacon stone should replace the baconstone pendant it is obviously better. Myst +4 vs. Myst +10 and Spell damage +10 Vs. +15 respectively

-Casper21 03:00, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

All of the heavy necklaces (especially the ones adding stench and cold damage (Staff of the Kitchen Floor/Staff of the Walk-In Freezer)) should be considered in adding spell damage, as well as using Elemental Spellbooks with the heavy necklaces over the Kickback Cookbook and a regular baconstone pendant.

Special Sauce Glove

With the Staff of the Kitchen Floor as the weapon used, one of the accesories must be the special sauce glove.--Casper21 03:05, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

Since we're looking at ascenders and above for those, I think it's presumed that they've also got the Spirit of Rigatoni skill. --Sparksol 06:11, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

I thing the Ankh of Badahnkadh was there too.

• What about the +25% goodness of Ankh of Badahnkadh or are we doing just static damage increasers?

Blackberry slippers

Blackberry slippers gives +10 +5% spell damage. I think it's better than enchanted toothpick with x100 base damage... --raorn 05:20, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

Pulverize Gem Necklaces

Now, since this is talking about trying to accheive the MAXIMUM spell damage, it is obvious that Sleaze, Cold, or Stench should be the element of choice (the +20 from the chefstaff is greater than the +10 hot or +12 spooky damage from other effects). With this in mind, Equipping the Ice-cold Aluminum Necklace, Mudflap-Girl Necklace, or Putrid Pendant for those higher class (Villa and Diety at least) definitely beats out existing equipment. +40 to that element is better than the +20 from the stainess steel scarf, for example.--Wildfire393 12:33, 30 August 2007 (CDT)

Updates Needed

This page is missing several items currently better than what is represented. The Solid baconstone necklace, the Ankh of Badahnkadh, and the Woven baling wire bracelets to name a few. This page and its corresponding Bonus Spell Damage page need many updates. --Xclockwatcher 19:53, 4 September 2007 (CDT)

I believe the calculations here are wrong. The % bonus spell damage is applied AFTER bonus spell damage is. --Wildfire393 15:21, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

the wand of ocrus/ash can need should probably be added to the appropriate 'classes', because they let you deal more damage than the kickback.--Flyinglama 16:07, 26 August 2008 (CDT)

Intrinsic Spiciness vs Flavour of Magic

Erm... These bonuses don't stack, seeing as how one only applies to Sauceror spells and the other only applies to Pastamancer spells. I'd edit this into the chart myself, but I'm not quite sure of the best way to format it. Ideas, anyone? --LegendaryBard 23:09, 4 November 2007 (CST)

• This page is pretty high on my list of things to do, if no one else beats me to it. The Spiciness/Flavour problem can basically be taken care of by treating them as the same thing (both give +10, right?), and saying "uncapped Myst spell" rather than "Saucegeyser" -- according to Calculating Spell Damage, the uncapped sauce/pasta spells work exactly the same, except for the base damage amount. However, the juicy chefstaves are only available to Pastamancers (Spirit of Rigatoni isn't one of the allowable permed skills under the new methodology, so "newbie" Saucerors have to waste an accessory slot to wear the special sauce glove)... So switch to pasta spells, maybe? Pursuant to the comments in the previous section, there are probably other presentation changes that should be made... The percent and absolute bonuses should be kept strictly separate to prevent confusion because the percent boost multiplies damage due to Myst as well. Any other changes? --Bagatelle 19:16, 5 November 2007 (CST)
• From the Flavour of Magic description: "Forces pasta spells (not sauce ones) to have a single element of choosing. Also adds +10 Spell Damage." Clearly this doesn't affect the element of your sauce spells, but my reading is that the +10 spell damage applies to everything. (If this is wrong, maybe there should be a note on the Flavour of Magic page?) Unrelatedly, I think the newbie Saucerors would find it completely worth it to wear the special sauce glove. They lose 25 spell damage (the spatula and the baconstone pendant) but even a crappy chefstaff gives more than +25 on a good spell.--PlatypusNinja 23:52, 5 November 2007 (CST)

Rainbow pearl necklace vs tiny plastic Naughty Sorceress for KOL Deity

KOL deity doesnt have a Rainbow pearl necklace as an accessory Rainbow pearl necklace = +200 spell damage tiny plastic Naughty Sorceress = +100% spell damage "Grand total" non-elemental spell damage with tiny plastic Naughty Sorceress = 552 "Grand total" non-elemental spell damage with Rainbow pearl necklace = 652 By relpacing one of the Tiny Plastic Naughty Sauceresses with a Rainbow pearl necklace, you get 100 extra damage.--Moxom s 05:38, 3 June 2008 (CDT)

• "Also note that percentage-based spell damage enhancers are to be preferred over absolute spell damage enhancers..." In practice you will also be boosting Myst. --Bagatelle 21:41, 3 June 2008 (CDT)

Disembodied Hand

Just because the hand can't use chefstaves doesn't mean that it can't increase spell damage. With cardboard sword, it can increase spell damage by 60, and for those without Mr. As, they can use Star Spatula (+15).

wand of oscus and Ol' Scratch's ash can

I have no idea how to edit the table and there's a possibility I'm wrong so I'd hate to mess up the table. but aren't these two offhand items you could add to the top of the offhands on the table? --Mike1921 21:59, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

-- Please add details for the Teflon Spatula, Deck of Lewd Playing Cards, and Sweet and Red from Sugar Cherry. Thanks in advance. - AvangionQ / March 3rd 2009.

Dragonfish?

The Magic Dragonfish familiar is +X% spell damage, where X is 2*weight, capped at 100 on land. Should we include +weight equipment, and, of course, the fish itself? --Mr Alfredo 01:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Hobo Power

With Hodgman's Almanac equiped, you can get a lot of spell damage. You get 30 damage from each pieces of Hodgman's Regal Frippery, 30 from the outfit, and 60 from Hodgman's lucky sock, plus a potential 6 from the Hobonic effect. Should this be added, given that it requires a lot of pieces to work?--DoctorWorm 05:04, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

awesomenerf

• this thread would seem to affect the figures on this page. it would appear that facepaint, FoJ and three "Y gives 1mp spells +1500% damage. yum. --Evilkolbot (talk) 08:58, 21 February 2013 (UTC)