Talk:Natty blue ascot
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I pickpocketted this from Monty Basingstoke-Pratt, IV, Battlefield (War Hippie Disguise). -MarcyRoni 01:12, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
I had it as a normal drop, I think from the same monster (War Hippie Disguise).--BigAl 16:10, 1 July 2007 (CDT)
What does this "reference" have to do with anything? The item is an ascot, it has nothing to do with a lager and a beer! I disagree with it. What's everyone else think?--MaskedLihc 00:45, 19 July 2007 (CDT)
- Agreed. Interesting, but unrelated. Might as well say that "natty" refers to "Natty Lite," a nickname for the crap frat beer Natural Light. ...but it doesn't.--Dorf (t|c) 02:04, 19 July 2007 (CDT)
- Natty is a real word meaning smart, and was used a lot in the 1920s; that reference is pretty far fetched I agree. If anything the word 'natty' conjures up images of The Great Gatsby. Yeah, the frat side of the war has a lot of beer references but the core of frat stereotypes is upper crust/moneyed students gliding by on their wealth despite spending four years of college drunk as skunks. PLUS, both Natty Boh and Pabst Blue Ribbon are pretty stereotypically low class beers (and no contrasts or irony are indicated in the item desc), and beer isn't mentioned anywhere in the description either.. so..... yeah, I'm not going to Kmail Big Bubba Luv for more justifications of his reference ;). -MarcyRoni 06:52, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
- I think we should start taking people who post bad references and burning them in effigy. --sl1me 04:17, 19 July 2007 (CDT)
- Heh. I've seen a LOT worse references than this - he made a case for it at least and it wasn't like "I think I saw this in Harry Potter or Runescape" or something - but TechSmurf is right when he says you shouldn't need a paragraph to explain a reference and then still have it be questionable. The fact that both are cheaper-end "frat" beers was pretty good, but the desc itself has nothing to do with beer - otherwise, I think it's just coincidence.--Dorf (t|c) 10:40, 20 July 2007 (CDT)
- What about a real reference: an ascot is a collar type clothing. Blue collar, being the working class and everything in the description depicts the 'white collar' class. Additionally it references blue blood, "an English expression recorded since 1834 for noble birth or descent". --MoreCurious 11:53, 28 July 2007 (CDT)
- Heh. I've seen a LOT worse references than this - he made a case for it at least and it wasn't like "I think I saw this in Harry Potter or Runescape" or something - but TechSmurf is right when he says you shouldn't need a paragraph to explain a reference and then still have it be questionable. The fact that both are cheaper-end "frat" beers was pretty good, but the desc itself has nothing to do with beer - otherwise, I think it's just coincidence.--Dorf (t|c) 10:40, 20 July 2007 (CDT)
