Talk:O.A.F.

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I just used it and instead of using spices, it made me fire my weapon...calculating the most optimal attack...Anyone else got something else yet?--Toffile 00:39, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

Post battle it just gave me some meat as well as items...--Toffile 00:41, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

Correction. It's autoselling the items...--Toffile 00:42, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

Is there even a stat gain on the optimizing message? i don't think there is. --Skyl3lazer 00:44, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

Seems to me like it builds up to something, but the building counter resets with each "stack overflow." (The other messages, such as clanking, are build up messages)--Skyl3lazer 00:51, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

Hm. Grog says "You are advancing at an unbalanced and suboptimal rate. Please allow me to adjust your advancement rate to compensate.

You gain 1 Beefiness. You gain 3 Wizardliness. You gain 8 Smarm.

Got this agianst a Meat Begzorz, which means I should get close to 17 stats. I get 12, and even including the fact that it's a Moxie day. (so I should have about 4-5 on a non-stat day from it)--Toffile 00:56, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

Added Maypole message. Needs testing to see if Maypole/Lips/Tam actually work or not. - JohnDoe244 06:25, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

I'm pretty sure there will be a trophy for ascending with a 20 pound O.A.F., regarding how DUMB that would be. --Akatosh 07:42, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

  • Sadly, no. Or at least not yet. I can't believe I now have a 20 pound O.A.F. to begin with >.> --Manial 07:48, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

Heh. Okay, damn... hm... tried killing the NS with an OAF equipped? --Akatosh 07:50, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

  • That's possible, I used a Dandy Lion for some reason. --Manial 07:53, 1 April 2007 (CDT)
    • Maybe there is a trophy for a 100% OAF ascension? :D -- LordHorst 10:19, 1 April 2007 (CDT)
  • Here I am ready to go through the gash, and no trophy for 100% OAF ascension. I ascended with a 0 kill OAF, and worked my way up. The autosell "feature" didn't start to hurt until the Orc Chasm, it sold every single 30669 scroll that dropped. I ended up pulling them from Hagnk's. Then up the beanstalk it kept stopping my skill attacks and I'd not be able to hit the monsters. Lots of beaten up from that. Curiously it didn't stop me from using items on any of the tower monsters, but did for the fight your shadow. I used magic to get my tower familiars to 20lbs, so they didn't get used at all for regular fights. The OAF made the Sorceress a fair bit harder, good thing I've enough ascensions that she is normally easy. I slapped a rat head balloon on the OAF for the final battle, but otherwise kept it equipment free, but I have Amphibian Sympathy so there was a permanent +5 going on. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 19:29, 6 April 2007 (CDT)

All right, so how does one get the equipment? The wiki is saying this thing can't fight in the arena, but the eq is available in the mall, so SOMEONE must be getting it. I fought with mine in the Arena, and he fought just fine for 9 rounds, then suddenly stopped acting at all, no matter what activity or opponent I chose. Anyone else having any luck with this?--Brightbutt The Defenestrator 18:38, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

even though it sucks at arena, u can still have a chance of it winning, heh i got 23000 meat off that hardware.--King maniac 19:56, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

Giant Pinky Ring appears to help counteract some of the effects of the O. A. F. Running 307 turns, 0 turns gave me what could be considered a negative status effect ie losing HP/MP. However several items were still auto-sold, stat gains were still decreased and buffs were occasionally still removed.--Gezmo 05:10, 2 April 2007 (CDT)

Plastic pumpkin bucket seems to work okay with this O.A.F. It still does the elemental attacks and it held out the bucket as hoped. Perhaps an oversight? Should we include it on the page since it *does* work as with the other fams? --Krazedkris 20:03, 3 April 2007 (CDT)

I think this is a new effect. Not sure what it does yet. Completely "Useful" says: "Amulfax shuffletime: less than one percent of freight drain. Log file." Anyone know what that means?--Gils 20:40, 3 April 2007 (CDT)

I've started a 100% OAF run and I've noticed some amusing things:

  • It reduces your stat gains quite often, and not just when it gives the message about adjusting your stats. The "stack overflow" message seems to correspond to stat loss, and often stat loss will occur even if no particular message is displayed.
  • Some messages like the "Amulfax" one and "SYSTAT: Direct Readout Uptime: 9:01:44." appear at the end of combat, but above meat or item drops. Usually when a message appears there, it indicates it's affecting drop rates. That can't be good.
  • I think weight might affect which messages get displayed, as there are some messages I saw early in the run which have not reappeared. For example the "Daisy Bell" and "Three, four, five, six, boxcars." messages. I don't know if weight affects anything else at all.
  • I think the buff removing action only occurs once per fight, at the beginning. --Prestige 08:06, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

Secrets?

I am just thinking, if this thing is so useless, is there something hiden about the hatchling? Just random thoughts but, has anyone tried cooking with it (the last line of the description describes eating it)? Also, could you combine it with something with meat paste? For example, combine the OAF with a lowercase N to make a NOAF, which maybe something else. I would try it, but I already activated my OAF.--Chuckles1 09:30, 1 April 2007 (EST)

So, It seems to be deleveling my opponents.

<Familiar Name> says "This opponent's power is inappropriate compared to yours. Adjusting." Your opponent seems to shrink.

And then I get less Stats than I normaly would, even without the stat adjusting message. --TiwazTyrsfist 08:56, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

Could you get a Toy Space Helmet and see if your enemies stats actually decrease? --Akatosh 08:58, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

Has anyone tried combining/cooking this with a glowing red eye or disembodied brain? --MrAndersonMan

Or how about zapping it? --Manial 09:49, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

'The Deactivated O. A. F. shudders for a moment, but nothing happens.' - Nope, no zpping.--Toffile 09:58, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

• Could this be used to remove withdrawl or poisoned maybe this could counteract all these new effects?--Mesth 11:01, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

Hm... does the "effect removal" action remove Goofball Withdrawal? --Akatosh 11:52, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

  • Afraid not. It appears to only remove buffs you can shrug off. I arranged to have withdrawal specifically to test this, and ran it out through turn-playing. I occasionally put up 10-turn buffs which got wiped out if shruggable, and left alone otherwise.

A Use?

If you set the Mind Control Device to eleven, and then fight the four bosses for the Boss Boss trophy, will the OAF lower their level back to normal, but you still be qualified for the trophy? I decidly non-optimal use, but it might make this trophy marginally easier. --Drab Emordnilap 12:07, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

I think it only occasionally delevels enemies (because I had MCD set to 1, and the delevel message didn't show up.) --CG1:t,c,e 18:18, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

Or, possibly, it only shows the message when items are equipped that increase ML. --CG1:t,c,e 18:33, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

Yeah, I realized that I had the Flaming Familiar Doppleganger on my O.A.F., and that was why he was deleveling my foes. Definately gonna get him up to 20 lbs. The O.A.F. needs a piece of familiar equipment that DECREASES it's weight. The description shouldn't say that, it should say that it optimizes the O.A.F.'s weight.--TiwazTyrsfist 22:50, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

At the Cake-Shaped Arena

The KoL Wiki claims (or well, some people claim) that the O.A.F. is weak in everything. Screw (sorry) it! I took my 2 lbs. O.A.F. against the 28 lbs. Leprechaun at the Obstacle course (which the leprechaun is weak at). IF the O.A.F. is weak in just about anything, why is it that I can pull off a win (occasionally, but yes, it won)? IF both the O.A.F. and the Leprechaun are both supposedly WEAK at the obstacle course, why is it still that even though the weight is in the house familiar's favour, I can still win? I'd better change the O.A.F. page... --Jewel12345 08:57, 3 April 2007 (CDT)

So far as I know, that's because familiars' performance at events at which they are particulary bad is independent of their weight (at least if they both have a minimum weight, maybe 4?). In other words, your O.A.F. and said leprechaun would do equally well in the obstacle course, so you 'd win half the time (maybe more, if you win ties). I'm reverting the page to its previous state.--Ekeinos 09:27, 3 April 2007 (CDT)

I thought "weakness" equated to a ~20-lb. drop in effective weight for that event. And presumably, a familiar's effective weight can't drop below 1. So this particular battle is probably effectively pitting a 1-lb. O.A.F. against an 8-lb. Leprechaun, which due to random variance WOULD allow the O.A.F. to win on occasion, as I understand the CSA dynamics.--Jett 11:44, 8 April 2007 (CDT)

Optimal Relocations

For the "This is not an optimum location for an adventurer of your abilities. I recommend that you relocate to <foo>" message, I've so far seen:

  • The Haiku Dungeon
  • The Typical Tavern
  • bzzt $locname
  • The Graffiti Wall

These should probably be listed, but where? --Club (#66669) (Talk) 18:44, 4 April 2007 (CDT)

Has anyone checked if something happens going there? Or is it just another pointless statement? --Gils 21:18, 4 April 2007 (CDT)

hm... when it says, "I recommend you relocate to <location>", does it actually send you there like Teleportitis?

You there, Coolguy00001, sign your posts. No it does not send you anywhere. Imagine trying to adventure at the graffiti wall, heh. I have not tried going there on my own. Nor do I listen to the defective skull when it tells me to bet all my meat right now. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 13:09, 5 April 2007 (CDT)

Wax Lips

Well, the message says it doesn't look very friendly, so does it still give extra stats, or not? --CG1:t,c,e 13:12, 7 April 2007 (CDT)

I don't think it would. The same would seem to apply for the other two items (especially since the Tam O'Shanter message doesn't mention anything about winking). --MaxVance 19:52, 7 April 2007 (CDT)
They might + Stat Items (Tiki Lighter, ga-ga radio, etc.) do not elicit power adjustment messges.--StrawberryLetter23 08:49, 7 August 2007 (CDT)

A ghastly thought

You know how the O. A. F. autosells some of the items dropped in combat, what if your fighting a Crazy Bastard or similar Ultra-rare monster and it sells the Ultra Rare item. Would this actually be possible or does the item not being able to be discarded prevent the item from being sold (it doesn't actually have an autosell price because it can't be discarded).

Can anyone think of any other items that this would be so annoying?

--Tornan Steel 11:58, 15 April 2007 (CDT)

  • If it can't be discarded, it can't be autosold, therefore it's safe from the O.A.F. --Emtu 12:03, 15 April 2007 (CDT)

Mayflower Bouquet

Does anyone know if the O.A.F. spectacularly fails to use the new Mayflower bouquet correctly like the other Mr. A. familiar equipment?--Jett 07:53, 2 May 2007 (CDT)

Re: references

This is NOT a Pratchett reference. Not everything in the game is a Pratchett/Monty Python reference! Hex is a large, room-sized computer. Hex is also HELPFUL.--AltyMcAltAlt 03:00, 30 November 2007 (CST)

Yeah, what the hell? HEX has a three-letter name and occasionally acts weird, but is usually helpful. The OAF has a three-letter name, always acts weird, and is never helpful. I just don't see how anyone could possibly think this was a Pratchett reference. --AndyAnime 09:11, 30 November 2007 (CST)

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