Talk:Ol' Scratch's salad fork
I'm terrible at making wiki pages, but here's the effect.
pitchfork.gif
[Ol' Scratch's salad fork, select food:]
Select an item: <insert dropdown list of food items>
Then a button with the message " [Ol' Scratch's Salad fork, button text] "
--Shademaster00 16:28, 18 June 2008 (CDT)
shademaster00 successfully ate a brain-meltingly-hot chicken wings and got FOUR ADVENTURES, WHAT THE HELL!? He also gained 27 Fortitude and 38 Magicalness, but it is still a Mysticality day today. Additional adventure/stat gain is thus inconclusive. He is understandably annoyed about this (and so am I.) --Goffrie 19:10, 18 June 2008 (CDT)
"You eat the now piping-hot super salad -- it's sizzlicious! The salad fork cools, and you discard it. You gain 23 Adventures. You gain 48 Strongness. You gain 57 Wizardliness. You gain 56 Roguishness." No milk, no Opossum. So that means at least 7 extra adventures. Definitely increased stat gains also, though this was on a Myst day. But it gave me at least 16 more mox substats than it would have. --Prestige 03:52, 26 June 2008 (CDT)
You stick the fork into the frozen banquet and raise it to your mouth. You lose 77 hit points. (hot damage) You eat the now piping-hot frozen banquet -- it's sizzlicious! The salad fork cools, and you discard it. You gain 68 Adventures. You gain 366 Fortitude. You gain 215 Magicalness. You gain 360 Cheek. This was with Milk, but no Opossum. --Murmur 07:04, 26 June 2008 (CDT)
Looks to me like it increases adventure gains by approximately 50%. --TheArchivist 13:08, 27 June 2008 (CDT)
Note: I had Ode to Milk
You stick the fork into the frozen banquet and raise it to your mouth.
You lose 650 hit points. (hot damage)
You eat the now piping-hot frozen banquet -- it's sizzlicious! The salad fork cools, and you discard it.
Adventures
You gain 62 Adventures.
You gain 421 Strengthliness.
You gain a Muscle point!
You gain 385 Enchantedness.
You gain a Mysticality point!
You gain 216 Cheek.
You gain a Moxie point!
--Dibbin 05:29, 1 July 2008 (CDT)
I used the fork on three extra-greasy sliders and got: 52, 50, and 49 adventures; 105, 107, and 112 strengthliness; 130, 116, and 107 wizardliness, and; 128, 110, and 108 sarcasm. I took exactly 96 hot damage each time with Extraordinarily High hot protection.
The fork may add a number up to 20 (where I got that from, I don't recall--take it as a S.W.A.G.)--18 from this data--to the received adventures. This, mind you, was with Got Milk and Opossum. --Blzbob 00:19, 29 July 2008 (CDT)
Further fork data: With Opossum, Got Milk, and the effect of Munchies Pills, I ate 6 extra-greasy sliders (It was the Feast of Boris, of course.) I recieved: 46, 54, 52, 54, 47, and 51 adventures; 109, 126, 125, 120, 121, and 109 beefiness; 116, 121, 123, 123, 127, and 112 wizardliness, and; 128, 107, 116, 126, 130, and 115 sarcasm. Tin cup of mulligan stew with fork: 26 adventures; 697 beefiness; 736 wizardliness, and; 539 sarcasm. Knob pasty with fork: 15 adventures; 7 beefiness; 7 wizardliness, and; 7 sarcasm. --Blzbob 22:40, 30 July 2008 (CDT)
Extra-greasy slider, no other modifiers: 45, 42. --TechSmurf 16:34, 2 August 2008 (CDT)
Something of note. After the nerf that made the things from the hobos single use per day, if you hit "use" and then don't actually use it (going to inventory, for example, as it was an accidental "use" click), it is not consumed, but you will get the "You can only use one of these per day" message. --Rick Tyger (talk) 22:22, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Revert War
- darthdud and Coolguy00001 please be careful, because a third revert will get at least one of you banned. you're neither of you asshats, though, so that's no pleasing prospect. as far as summarising the most important information on a page goes we should probably take it to discussion in the first instance. --Evilkolbot 03:05, 17 August 2008 (CDT)
- I don't understand why the pertinent information about an item should be hidden under 3 pages of absolutely worthless use text. The goal of the wiki is to be as informative about KoL as possible, yes? You don't want people going to a page's item and having to look through pages of worthless information to find the tidbit that's actually useful to know. Nobody has a problem with my got milk page, for instance, which is what I modeled the fork and mug pages off of.--DarthDud 14:04, 17 August 2008 (CDT)
- You did the same thing with Got Milk? Didn't see that; Another undiscussed breach of standards. If you had put the adventure gain table in the notes for Got Milk, I'm sure nobody would miss it; it's quite large. The standard is to put anything significant in the notes: wiki users tend to go to the Notes section for formulas like these. I think it's just that people are just too lazy to use CTRL+F or even search the first six words of each note. --CG1:t,c,e 16:43, 17 August 2008 (CDT)
I agree with DarthDud on this. People aren't coming here to find out it gives additional adventures. They come here to find out how many. --Uberferret 14:06, 17 August 2008 (CDT)
Broken link?
So, the pertinent forum link is broken, leading to a squatter. I don't know what the correct link would be, or I'd fix it. --Ephesos 08:15, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Salad
I propose a category of Salads so that 'For salads, increases adventure gains by 50%, rounded up.' can link to exactly which food are 50%--Yungera 21:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- Seems nobody opposes, so... Category:Salad. Hilarious! --Yatsufusa (talk) 11:47, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Stat Gains
Has anyone seriously looked into this? I see from Blzbob's post, it looks like a reasonable estimate of the increase for sliders was somewhere around +33% (I don't think milk/munchies/oppossum add to stats, do they?). That sort of suggests that the percentage increases determined for the adventure gains are equivalent for stat gains. Anyone rich want to try it out with some salad, to confirm the +30/+50 thing still applies....
Evidence is quite strong that, if a consumable would normally roll from X to Y (uniformly, it seems) for a stat gain, with the fork it instead rolls from floor(1.3X) to floor(1.3Y). Mugs, incidentally increase stat gains by 50% for beer it seems, so presumably for salads forks similarly rolls from floor(1.5X) to floor(1.5Y). Also note that if something gives negative stat gains (eg imp ale), the stat loss roll is affected similarly, so you will lose extra stats. Will confirm over the next few days then get somebody to update the main post. --DarthDud 03:34, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
| Drink | Base Stats | Mug Stats |
|---|---|---|
| super salad | 30-40 30-40 30-40 |
45-60 45-60 45-60 |
| balaclava baklava | 4-6 4-6 4-6 |
5-7 5-7 5-7 |
Aaand, same modifiers on stats as adventures. --TechSmurf 05:05, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Hot Damage
I don't see anything on the item page or here in talk about how hot resistance was spaded, but I have ~273 Hot Resistance and take 400 damage when using forks. It seems to be 400 regardless of whether my resistance goes up or down a few points. Maybe there's a cap where it defaults to that, or maybe it's being caused by another active effect. --Sensibleb (talk) 16:54, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
