Talk:One of Doctor Weirdeaux's creations

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Bee midsection. Dodges some attacks? - Dodged: melee attack, shieldbutt. - Did not dodge: spectral snapper (1 spooky damage), Turtle of Seven Tails

--Sadv (talk) 16:35, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Is there a limit on how many sections they can have? Maybe a trophy or some other reward associated with fighting a really high level monster? Maybe eventually a monster will have at least one of each parts? The longest I've fought had 11 sections, and the fights are becoming very difficult. Csabo (talk) 14:24, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Looking at MA/MD/HP and Init data, there are two factors apparently covering both:

  • Number of monsters defeated
  • Number of shark/leopard/bear/cheetah parts respectively.

Initial spading suggests (but needs refinement) that MA, MD and HP all start at 70, and increase 7.5 with each defeat. Each middle of a certain type adds 25%, but it's not clear if this is additive or geometric. (i.e., does 2 sha rks result in 150% or 188%). Cheetahs simply make it so that the monster always wins initiative...it's not clear if there is some effect for multiple cheetahs.

Elephants add elemental resistance, and it is definitely progressive here (tested with a paint bomb). It looks like 75% elemental resistance for each piece.

I haven't found something yet that provides physical resistance...that seems to be the missing piece. -Foggy (talk) 16:15, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Bee data (h="hit" [not dodged], D=Dodged):

  • 1 bee part: hhhhhhDhDhDDDDhhhhDhDDDhDhDhhhDhhhhhDhhhDDhDh
    (dodged 17/45 =~ 38%)
  • 2 bee parts: hDhDDDDDhDhDDDDDDhhhDDhDDDhDhDDhDDDDDhhhDDDDDDhhDhhDDhDDDDDDh
    (dodged 41/61 =~ 67%)
  • 3 bee parts: DhDDDDDDhhDDDhD
    (dodged 11/15 =~ 73%)

Needs more data, but it's a start. --Greycat (talk) 18:06, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

More data on bees (hits/attacks by fight):

  • 1 segment: 5/7, 15/25, 17/23, 6/11, 8/11, 7/9, 6/9, 18/25, 13/19, 4/6 total- 99/145 (68%)
  • 2 segments: 4/10, 3/10, 11/26, 8/20, 8/23, 4/9, 6/23, 1/2, 8/19 total- 53/142 (37%)
  • 3 segments: 2/14, 3/24 total- 5/38 (13%)
  • 4 segments: 0/27 (0%)

If the bees act before the jellyfish (which I believe to be the case), then their are two more fights with two segments, 7/18 and 7/21. If the jellyfish acts first, then those fights were 3/18 and 4/21.--MogamboRanger (talk) 01:37, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Middle part frequency (are they all equally likely?):

  • Creature 1: 14 bear 18 shark 19 elephant 19 hedgehog 20 bee 21 wolf 27 leopard 28 snail 29 cheetah (195 total)
  • Creature 2: 11 hedgehog 16 bee 20 wolf 23 leopard 23 shark 23 snail 25 elephant 26 cheetah 29 bear (196 total)
  • Creature 3: 16 cheetah 18 hedgehog 19 shark 19 wolf 23 bee 23 elephant 23 leopard 27 bear 28 snail (196 total)
  • Creature 4: 15 bee 16 shark 18 leopard 20 elephant 21 cheetah 25 snail 26 wolf 27 bear 27 hedgehog (195 total)
  • Creature 5: 14 wolf 17 shark 17 snail 19 hedgehog 21 leopard 24 bear 26 bee 28 cheetah 29 elephant (195 total)
  • Creature 6: 15 bear 17 shark 17 snail 19 elephant 21 hedgehog 24 cheetah 24 wolf 28 leopard 30 bee (195 total)
  • Creature 7: 15 hedgehog 17 shark 20 wolf 21 leopard 22 snail 24 bear 25 cheetah 25 elephant 27 bee (196 total)
  • Creature 8: 13 bear 14 snail 19 leopard 20 elephant 21 wolf 25 shark 26 bee 26 hedgehog 32 cheetah (196 total)
  • Creature 9: 18 bear 19 elephant 19 leopard 19 wolf 22 snail 23 hedgehog 24 bee 26 cheetah 26 shark (196 total)
  • Creature 10: 16 wolf 17 snail 19 bear 21 cheetah 22 hedgehog 22 leopard 24 shark 27 bee 28 elephant (196 total)
  • Creature 11: 16 leopard 17 wolf 19 shark 20 elephant 22 bear 23 hedgehog 24 snail 26 cheetah 29 bee (196 total)
  • Creature 12: 18 shark 18 snail 20 elephant 21 bear 22 wolf 23 cheetah 23 hedgehog 25 leopard 26 bee (196 total)
  • Creature 13: 17 snail 20 bear 20 cheetah 20 shark 20 wolf 22 leopard 24 elephant 25 bee 28 hedgehog (196 total)
  • Creature 14: 15 snail 19 shark 21 cheetah 22 bear 22 elephant 22 wolf 24 hedgehog 25 leopard 26 bee (196 total)
  • Creature 15: 16 shark 19 elephant 20 cheetah 20 leopard 21 hedgehog 23 wolf 24 snail 25 bee 28 bear (196 total)
  • Creature 16: 6 bear 18 snail 20 bee 22 leopard 22 shark 23 elephant 25 hedgehog 29 wolf 31 cheetah (196 total)
  • Creature 17: 16 hedgehog 17 leopard 18 cheetah 20 bear 20 wolf 24 elephant 26 snail 27 bee 28 shark (196 total)
  • Creature 18: 18 hedgehog 18 wolf 19 shark 20 leopard 22 bear 23 cheetah 23 elephant 23 snail 30 bee (196 total)
  • Creature 19: 17 bee 17 wolf 19 bear 19 leopard 22 snail 23 cheetah 23 elephant 27 shark 30 hedgehog (197 total)
  • Creature 20: 18 cheetah 18 elephant 19 leopard 19 wolf 21 hedgehog 22 bee 26 shark 26 snail 28 bear (197 total)

Totals: 418 bear 481 bee 471 cheetah 443 elephant 430 hedgehog 426 leopard 416 shark 426 snail 407 wolf --Greycat (talk) 17:18, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Strategy

  • [20:20] sausssage: is there a weirdeaux-for-noobs written up somewhere? -hic-
  • [20:20] Heeheehee: 1) have marinara, utensil twist, dinsey pizza cutter
  • [20:21] Heeheehee: 2) start with marinara, keep monster stunned, use utensil twist while monster is stunned.
  • [20:21] Heeheehee: That'll win you about 85% of combats.
  • [20:21] Heeheehee: Sometimes jellyfish get the better of you, and you can't touch octopi (often can't do anything to them anyways)
  • [20:25] Heeheehee: Technically you should also have a fat potato and other blocking thingies
  • [20:26] Heeheehee: like ed crown or drunkula ring of haze or mesmereyes or spaghetti thrall so you don't get killed on round 1
  • [20:26] Heeheehee: Attorney badge + ancient stone head don't hurt, either, nor does navel ring --Sausssage (talk) 03:28, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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