Talk:S'more

Eating 5 I got 1, 4,7,12, and 17 adventures from them. Obviously, the adventure gain increases with how many you eat. (Presumably resets at rollover.) --Starwed 05:29, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

• i guess there must be an adventure cap. eating eleven would be ridiculous. --Evilkolbot 06:02, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Well, if someone's got Stomach of Steel, we could test it out, you'd have enough fullness for 11, plus a couple left over. Even without SoS, that's still 10... --Jimfromtx 06:22, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

According to stupac2, the fullness starts at 1 and increases by one for every s'more you eat. --Starwed 10:20, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

• Ate 5 each on two different characters, got the exact same numbers (1, 4, 7, 12, 17) each time. Currently resisting the urge to buy a spice melange so I can eat a sixth. --Johnny Treehugger 14:32, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Same here. 1,4,7,12,17,24,31, 39, 47, 57, 67, 78, 90, 102, 115 seen twice. 128, 143, 158 seen once. One of the characters has Stomach of Steel, so we'll see about 16 and up, hopefully.--Lotsofphil 14:36, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
• I ran the known numbers through various regressions on SPSS and put the results here, if anybody's curious as to what they'd look like: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AsKtQkfz6x48dGpKbWpac3NTWWxENUNGdFcxX1BtRVE&hl=en&authkey=CJvG3JUD --Aoi 00:44, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't think that sort of analysis will get you very far, because even if there is a formula, it involves rounding. The first several points satisfy the formula floor(n[1+0.5n]), but it shifts at n=8. --Starwed 00:52, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

• A multi ate 5 s'mores: 1,4,7,12,17 adv. Then it ascended. Then it ate 5 s'mores: 1,4,7,12,17 adv.--Lotsofphil 21:51, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

speculation != spading

• given that the fullness increases by 1, on FOB you can eat seven and with stomach and a melange eight. wild guessing, i'd say the return deltas of 3,3,5,5 suggest this will continue 7,7,9. which gives 24, 31, 40, for a hard total of 136. stunty but not EPIC. --Evilkolbot 19:49, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

• So how does the scaling interact with the the gluttonous green ghost? --Zourath 04:37, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

The ghost won't eat the s'mores. There's no "give to ghost" link next to it. --Lemon-claw 01:20, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

I just tried "force feeding" it to the ghost via url manipulation and it said "Invald Item". --Lemon-claw 01:33, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Stupid laptop keyboard, that comment was supposed to say "Ha ha, I'm a day ahead of everyone, I'm gonna get the 'Eat a 35 Fullness s'more" trophy first". --Johnny Treehugger 13:21, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Consumable Modifiers

I just confirmed that the s'more responds to munchies, milk, and salad fork. So the table on the main page is correct :-) --RoyalTonberry 18:16, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Formula

I think the formula is ceiling(n^1.75) where n is the current s'more number being eaten this ascension (1 for the first, 2 for the second, etc). This formula fits all current data points perfectly, and is simple enough, with a clean enough exponent, to be believable. This would predict that 18 = 158, 19 = 173, and 20 = 190 --RoyalTonberry 06:16, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Also, here's a table expanding all the modifiers out, given the above formula. I'm not entirely convinced how useful anything beyond 20 is, but oh well. --RoyalTonberry 06:31, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

S'mores Eaten	Adventures Gained	Munchies	Milk	Salad fork	Munchies and Milk	Munchies and Salad fork	Milk and Salad fork	Munchies, Milk, and Salad fork
1	1	4	2	2	5	6	3	7
2	4	6	6	6	8	8	8	10
3	7	8	10	10	11	11	13	14
4	12	13	16	16	17	17	20	21
5	17	18	22	23	23	24	28	29
6	24	25	30	32	31	33	38	39
7	31	32	38	41	39	42	48	49
8	39	40	47	51	48	52	59	60
9	47	48	56	62	57	63	71	72
10	57	58	67	75	68	76	85	86
11	67	68	78	88	79	89	99	100
12	78	79	90	102	91	103	114	115
13	90	91	103	117	104	119	130	132
14	102	103	116	133	117	134	147	148
15	115	116	130	150	131	151	165	166
16	128	129	144	167	145	168	183	184
17	143	144	160	186	161	188	203	205
18	158	159	176	206	177	207	224	225
19	173	174	192	225	193	227	244	246
20	190	191	210	247	211	249	267	269
21	207	208	228	270	229	271	291	292
22	224	225	246	292	247	293	314	315
23	242	243	265	315	266	316	338	339
24	261	262	285	340	286	341	364	365
25	280	281	305	364	306	366	389	391
26	300	301	326	390	327	392	416	418
27	320	321	347	416	348	418	443	445
28	341	342	369	444	370	445	472	473
29	363	364	392	472	393	474	501	503
30	385	386	415	501	416	502	531	532
31	408	409	439	531	440	532	562	563
32	431	432	463	561	464	562	593	594
33	455	456	488	592	489	593	625	626
34	479	480	513	623	514	624	657	658
35	504	505	539	656	540	657	691	692

Just ate one on FoB. 228 adv with milk, so the table is right (of course).

Fulness cap

• Is there a maximum fullness? I notice the table only goes up to 18, without a ? row for 19. Does this mean that if I have stomache of steel that I can eat 1 s'more a day even after my 18th s'more, or will I then only be able to eat them on FoB (or from Quantum Taco), and from FoB they will eventually get too high? What if I don't have SoS (which I don't) - will they then cap at 15 s'mores (not counting FoB) each ascension? --DanielH 16:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Sorry, forgot to sign --DanielH 16:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
  • I should check my comments before making them - I saw the page yesterday but couldn't sign in at the moment. Now it does go to 19 but not above. Has 19 been confirmed? How? --DanielH 16:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't quite understand your question -- every time you eat one, the fullness of the next one increases by 1. All the normal rules apply for eating food, so if you have enough stomach left, you can eat it, and if you don't, you can't. Yes, this means that you need increased stomach capacity to eat more than 15 s'mores in a single ascension. --Starwed 16:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

I assume he wonders if a 21 fullness s'more actually exists. It requires FoB to check this, and no one's gotten to 20 just yet (should happen tomorrow). And it'll take something like 4 years for a non-ascending character with stomach of steel to consume a 35 fullness s'more. At least that's what RT told me. --Flargen 17:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm assuming s'mores are blacklisted from quantum tacos, otherwise, assuming no limit (which I think there isn't) it could get out of hand. --Turing 17:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that seems very likely, seeing as we had seen popcorn and chaos popcorn from the quantum taco before anyone had the popcorn recipe, but no one has seen a s'more. --Flargen 17:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

• Since the counter is not reset, I'm gonna say the theoretical max is 37 (Stomach + Gluttony + Feast of Boris), and once you eat that one, no more s'mores for you. --Turing 18:00, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
  • You can't get both Stomach of Steel and gluttony. --Flargen 18:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
    • Oh, right! Silly me. --Turing 19:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

that's one pig of a trophy. --Evilkolbot 19:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, I've confirmed the values up to 20, and I'm likely to ascend before next FoB, so I won't be able to confirm 21+. I'd say it's safe to add 21-35 if people want. The table looks pretty busy as it is, I don't really think we need all the extra columns, but if people like them, we should add Munchies + Fork since it's bothering me that it's the only combination not there. --Johnny Treehugger 11:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

• Munchies + Fork is actually something that has come up before, and the last time it came up, I gave the same reply: I don't think it's worthwhile to have Munchies + Fork, since I don't think there's any realistic scenario where someone would use munchies + fork and not use Milk (though, admittedly, that was before the Milk change which uses turns of the buff). --RoyalTonberry 01:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Then why the "fork only" column? Who uses a fork without using milk? --Flargen 01:31, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
    • Huh, I'll bet my reasoning at the time was to just have the base modifiers as a row by themselves. *shrug* If it's not useful, we could remove it. --RoyalTonberry 02:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Distention pill

This can both speed up s'more consumption and increase maximum s'more-ness. By one. Just thought to point that out. --Raijinili 01:21, 10 January 2012 (CET)

• nope.avi. as Gemelli has answered for me, distention pills work by reducing the fullness amount of the next object you consume, buy ONLY IF you were able to eat it in the first place. ergo, no 36th s'more, and sadly, no s'more combo reduced by 1 is useful. (1+2+3+4+5-1=14, no powerful 1-fullness item, 6+7=13, fits quantaco, 7+8=15, again no powerful 1-fullness item, etc.)--The ErosionSeeker 01:35, 10 January 2012 (CET)
  • hmm. if you started your day with a dp and a nine fullness s'more, you could melange and eat the ten one. similarly, on fob with stomach you could do nineteen and twenty. but yes, you're right, the numbers are awkward. --Evilkolbot 12:40, 10 January 2012 (CET)
  • For comboing, say that I'm on day 1 of Stomach of Steel s'more-eating. I can eat distend and eat one, and then eat five more (21 total fullness). This also works for any combination with Pride (though how useful would that be?). For the other, how long ago did Gemelli say that? See distention pill#History.
  • Edit: Actually, Distention Pill + Stomach of Steel (the only way to get 35 in the first place) has the following daily eating plan:
    1. 21 = 1 2 3 4 5 6 (dp1)
    2. 24 = 7 8 9 (dp1, melange3)
    3. 21 = 10 11 (dp1)
    4. 39 = 12 13 14 (melange3, dp1, FoB15)
    5. (and on) one a day
  • --Raijinili 07:43, 11 January 2012 (CET)
• When first introduced, in order for the pill to take proper effect, there had to be enough room in your stomach for the next thing you ingested; you could not eat until fullness, take the pill, and then ingest a 1 fullness item. This is no longer true.
• 36-fullness s'more! yay! although, why are still reporting the old behaviour? --Evilkolbot 13:58, 13 January 2012 (CET)
  • People will remember it being one way and then see nothing on the wiki about it and assume it's an oversight, and then go to "fix" it. --Raijinili 11:33, 17 January 2012 (CET)

goodbye 36

CD Moyer fixed it. a distention pill no longer reduces the fullness of the next thing you eat. so no more 36 fullness s'more. or did miss something? --Evilkolbot (talk) 20:34, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Huh? Distension Pill currently works by simply adding +1 stomach capacity right? So that works fine with getting a 36 fullness s'more with SoS and Legendary Appetite. Of course, the question now is how many s'mores can you eat with SoS, Legendary Appetite, distention pill AND Pantsgiving (with N tattered scraps).... --Darkcodelagsniper (talk) 20:56, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

pantsgiving isn't relevant since you have to be at full for it to kick in. --Evilkolbot (talk) 21:00, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

faster still

• it's not something i could do, but wouldn't day one stomach mean that you could get to 36 in three FOBs? and, while we're talking stunty, chained casuals mean you could finish off the last six in a single day. but if you're chaining casuals why not do it all in a single day anyway? --Evilkolbot 08:36, 19 October 2012 (CEST)
  • no, it wouldn't, you knucklehead. the lasagna is five, so although you can chain to thirty-one in a single fob you'll have to do the rest one at a time. duh. --Evilkolbot 23:52, 22 October 2012 (CEST)
  • resets on ascension, mr "reading comprehension fail." --Evilkolbot 00:14, 23 October 2012 (CEST)