Talk:The Island Barracks
The map is inaccurate in one crucial detail -- the hacienda keys are not in the same location every time. --Baltar 08:43, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Clues to Keys
Seems each area has the ability to contain a hacienda key, the clues found elsewhere point to which area the keys are located in, based on an item that is in the wrong place, for instance this ascension I had a pepper mill in the chessboard and a crowbar in the fridge, pointing to the dinning room table and the crates, probably need a chart for each clue item and what it corresponds to. --Uzziah 17:37, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
My data
| Location | Detail | Result | Result 2 | Result 3 | Result 4 | Result 5 | Result 6 | Result 7 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kitchen | Cupboards | Hacienda key | item silver cheese slicer | fight | Hacienda key | fight | fight | fight |
| Pantry | fight | key clue empty teacup | key clue crowbar | ? (unexplored) | item taco shells | hacienda key | hacienda key | |
| Fridge | Fettucini Inconnu | fight | Fettucini Inconnu | ? (unexplored) | hacienda key | item fettucini inconnu | item fettucini inconnu | |
| Dining room | Tables | Hacienda key | fight | ? (unexplored) | ? (unexplored) | hacienda key | item silver salt shaker | hacienda key |
| Sideboard | fight | item sterno | fight | Hacienda key | item sterno | hacienda key | fight | |
| Cabinets | silver paté knife | hacienda key | hacienda key | ? (unexplored) | fight | fight | item | |
| Storeroom | Crates | Hacienda key | item jerky | hacienda key | clue (lid from a can of sterno) | item fancy beef jerky | item fancy beef jerky | fight |
| Workbench | pipe wrench | hacienda key | ? (unexplored) | pipe wrench | key clue apple core | fight | item | |
| Gun Cabinet | fight | fight | ? (unexplored) | fight | fight | key clue sterno | hacienda key | |
| Bedroom | Beds | fight Sleepy mariachi | item sleep mask | fight | sleep mask | key clue pepper mill | fight | item |
| Dressers | key clue (silver pepper-mill) | key clue needle nose pliers | key clue (teacup) | hacienda key | item sock garters | key clue empty can of sardine | key clue silver pepper mill | |
| Bathroom | mariachi toothpaste | fight | mariachi toothpaste | ? (unexplored) | fight | item mariachi toothpaste | fight | |
| Library | Bookshelves | fight | fight | fight | fight | hacienda key | hacienda key | item tome |
| Chairs | 229 Meat | hacienda key | 223 Meat | key clue (potato peeler) | fight | 211 meat | fight | |
| Chess Set | Hacienda key | item bookmark | hacienda key | ? (unexplored) | item bookmark | fight | key clue sardine can | |
| Parlour | Pool Table | key clue (potato peeler) | fight | ? (unexplored) | hacienda key | fight | hacienda key | fight |
| Bar | decanter of fine Scotch | hacienda key | hacienda key | ? (unexplored) | item decanter | item decanter | hacienda key | |
| Fireplace | fight | item cigar | ? (unexplored) | ? (unexplored) | hacienda key | fight | item cigar |
The type of mariachi is possibly tied to the area they are found in. I got a Sleepy mariachi when I found him in his bed for instance. The exact wording when you receive a key clue is "You carefully search the area, but don't manage to find a key to Lopez's hacienda. You do find a <object>, however, which strikes you as oddly out of place considering how fastidiously tidy these bandits seem to be. Hmm." --Nossidge 18:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I've added my results for a recent accordion thief nemesis quest. It's worth noting that after Lopez was defeated, the four locations with hacienda keys and clues were empty, but I found items at the six fight locations after Lopez was defeated.--Foggy 03:35, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Added results from most recent two AT runs.--Foggy 14:32, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Can't find fifth key (oops)
I have gone to every location in the barracks at least twice, and I still only have four keys. I'm almost 100% sure I've beaten the mariachi in each location except for one, which starts as an alert mariachi. Am I supposed to somehow beat him? I tried 5 times with +140% combat init and he still instakills me. Or is the key with one of the other ones? Mikachu 13:43, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
So of course I figured out now you can pickpocket it from any mariachi anywhere right after posting that :). Mikachu 13:49, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Hypotheses:
- Each area has 1 fight, 1 item, and 1 key or clue - 4 keys and 2 clues
These hypotheses are matched by my own experience and by the result and result2 columns in Nossidge's table, above. Any counterexamples yet?
- I assumed the same thing and it worked for me.--Temporary man 00:54, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Clues Table
Also, from comments and my own data, here's a start at a table of hints. My hints are marked with a * (and I did indeed find a key in the corresponding location), the others are from what I've read on this wiki (including random other pages).
The ones not from Nossidge's table (and therefore unclear whether the key matches) have a '?' and are just my guess. You are more than welcome to fill in and correct.
| Hint | Location |
|---|---|
| *potato peeler | Cupboards |
| empty sardine can | Pantry |
| apple core | Fridge |
| silver pepper-mill | Tables |
| lid from a can of sterno | Sideboard |
| *empty teacup | Cabinets |
| *small crowbar | Crates |
| needle nose pliers | Workbench |
| empty rifle cartridge | Gun Cabinet |
| *long nightcap with a pom-pom on the end | Beds |
| dirty sock | Dressers |
| Bathroom | |
| Bookshelves | |
| Chairs | |
| Chess Set | |
| Pool Table | |
| Bar | |
| Fireplace |
GrumpyOldTroll 16:49, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
I can confirm a few more here...what's weird is that it seems like only the left-hand side locations are clued, except for the Bedroom one.--Foggy 14:39, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Confirmed sterno hint -> dining room sideboard key.
..You do find a dirty sock, however, which strikes you as oddly out of place.. (etc.) --> Dressers.
--RikAstley 21:24, 9 Juni 2010 (UTC)
Arrgh
I am stuck in the following situation: I have one hacienda key. I wandered around the island barracks, found one key and had some fights. NOW every time I click on the barracks I instantly get an alert mariachi who kills me instantly.
I had a moxie of 370 or so (buffed) so I don't know what else I can do. Will the mariachi go away in a few days? Can I ever get the drop on him to try and kill him before he kills me?
Help! --Jooga 04:15, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
- an errant cube of chalk from the pool table.>> Pool Table >> found Key --MadonKody 00:24, 3 April 2012 (CEST)
- According to this anecdote, the "errant cube of chalk from the pool table" is part of the regular adventure text, and not a clue. --Philmasterplus (talk) 05:20, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
