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This guide will list some tricks and tips for a [[Bees Hate You]] run, as well as an overview of significant "b" items.

==Valhalla==
The Degrassi Knoll signs ([[The Mongoose]], [[The Wallaby]], or [[The Vole]]) are highly recommended, especially in Hardcore.  It is impossible to make a [[bitchin' meatcar]] in the others, since you can't open a [[Gnollish toolbox]], so the others would have to buy a [[Desert Bus pass]] or make a [[pumpkin carriage]].

The choice of [[The Deli Lama|astral consumables]] is mostly unaffected by this path. Choose whatever you would have chosen in no-path.

The choice of [[Pet Heaven|astral gear]] is less clearly defined.  Gear with a '''b''' in its name will do extra damage to you at the start of every combat, but is otherwise usable in the normal way.  Players who will struggle to heal that damage may wish to choose less painful alternative gear.  The [[astral pet sweater]] will not give extra runaways, because none of the familiars that give runaways are available (currently).  The [[astral belt]] is still optimal for speed, but the extra Attack and Defense on many standard monsters (and the stun resistance and damage resistance of many of the Bees) means combat is harder than normal, so be prepared.

The classes play similarly to how they normally play.  One of the biggest things to watch out for is extra damage taken from equipment, from wandering Bees, and from certain mandatory quest items.  This makes healing far more important than you may be accustomed to.  Also, many MP restorers are unavailable.  Muscle classes and Disco Bandits cannot use [[Knob Goblin seltzer]] or [[black cherry soda]], so they must rely on more expensive MP sources or starfishing.  Classes that can use [[magical mystery juice]] will be able to do so normally.

==Familiars==
* Many of the high-end familiars are unusable: [[Frumious Bandersnatch]], [[Baby Sandworm]], [[He-Boulder]], [[Jack-in-the-Box]], [[Obtuse Angel]], [[Pair of Stomping Boots]], [[Baby Bugged Bugbear]], [[Knob Goblin Organ Grinder]], [[Hobo Monkey]], [[Hunchbacked Minion]], [[Cheshire Bat]], [[Cymbal-Playing Monkey]], [[Blavious Kloop]], [[Bloovian Groose]], [[Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot]], [[Rock Lobster]], [[Disembodied Hand]].
* Even many of the standard familiars are also unusable: [[Blood-Faced Volleyball]], [[Hovering Sombrero]], [[Baby Gravy Fairy]], [[Cocoabo]], [[Barrrnacle]].
* The [[Green Pixie]] can be used, but the [[tiny bottle of absinthe]] cannot, rendering the Green Pixie pointless.
* The [[Mini-Hipster]] works, but you cannot pawn the [[fixed-gear bicycle]] to turn it back into the other equipment forms.  You can have one of each equipment form by day 3.
* The [[Unconscious Collective]], [[Llama Lama]] and [[Rogue Program]] are the only usable spleen-filling familiars.
* Neither the Bandersnatch nor the Boots are usable, so there are no familiar-based runaways.
* You cannot use the [[He-Boulder]], [[Crimbo Shrub]], [[pumpkin bomb]], or [[unbearable light]]; so the yellow ray options are limited to [[Golden Light]] and via the [[Nanorhino]].
* No Obtuse Angel means no badly romantic monsters.
** The [[Reanimated Reanimator]] can now do the same job, however.
* Most [[fairychaun]] familiars are usable: [[Angry Jung Man]], [[Piano Cat]], [[Dancing Frog]], [[Casagnova Gnome]], [[Attention-Deficit Demon]] and [[Coffee Pixie]] are all B-free.
* Many [[volleychaun]] familiars are usable: [[Unconscious Collective]], [[Dramatic Hedgehog]], [[Chauvinist Pig]], [[Uniclops]], and [[Nervous Tick]].

==Restricted Items==
Here is a small list of important items that you cannot use, craft, or equip without discretion in a Bees Hate You run. Especially important items are bolded.

===Unusable Items===
* '''[[A-Boo clue]]''': As of February 18, 2013, the clue has to be used to trigger [[The Horror... (A-Boo Peak)|The Horror...]], so [[A-boo Peak]] will take longer.
* '''[[bartender-in-the-box]] & [[chef-in-the-box]]''': No bartender and no chef means you will have to spend some turns to cook or mix better foods, unless you have [[Inigo's Incantation of Inspiration (skill)|Inigo's Incantation of Inspiration]] available.
* [[Ben-Gal™ Balm]]
* [[black cherry soda]] and [[knob goblin seltzer]]: if you don't have [[magical mystery juice]] access, be prepared to do a ''lot'' of starfishing.
* [[blue snowcone|Blue]] and [[black snowcone]]s
* '''[[book of matches]]'''
* [[borrowed time]], [[box of Familiar Jacks]], '''[[unbearable light]]''' and many other [[Summon Clip Art]] choices
* [[BRICKO brick|BRICKO]] items
* '''[[bubblin' crude]]''': you cannot solve the mystery of [[Twin Peak]] in this path; you must burn the hotel down.
* '''[[can of Ghuol-B-Gone™]], [[half-rotten brain]], [[rusty bonesaw]]''': [[plus-sized phylactery]] is OK.
* [[chaos butterfly]]: You won't be able to use the shortcut for the [[McMillicancuddy's Farm|Defowl the Farm]] side-quest.
* [[Chest of the Bonerdagon]]
* '''[[disassembled clover]]''': Make sure to closet [[ten-leaf clover]]s instead.
* '''[[disposable instant camera]]''': You must wait for the [[photograph of a dog]] to drop.
* [[divine blowout]] (but the other two combat favors work)
* [[Dungeons of Doom potion]]s: You can't open [[large box|large boxes]] or [[small box|small boxes]], so you'll not likely be using bang potions, unless you're willing to spend 5000 meat to kill mimics. Even then, you can't use bubbly potions.
** However, bang potions are not required to enter the Naughty Sorceress's Lair in a BHY run.
* [[fruit basket]] & [[fruit bowl]]: Don't count on [[The Hippy Camp]] clover adventures for fruits.
* '''[[Gnollish toolbox]]''': Non-Knoll signs cannot get an [[empty meat tank]] to make a [[bitchin' meatcar]] (see below).
* [[Harold's bell]]
* '''[[Knob Goblin lunchbox]]''': Stick to {{plural|tasty tart}} or [[distilled fortified wine]] instead.
* [[The Knob Dispensary]] items
* '''[[Louder Than Bomb]]'''
* Love songs of [[love song of vague ambiguity|vague ambiguity]] and [[love song of disturbing obsession|disturbing obsession]]
* [[Medicinal Herb's medicinal herbs]]
* '''[[molybdenum magnet]]''': you cannot do [[The Junkyard]] [[Retrieve Yossarian's Tools|side quest]].
* [[moveable feast]]
* [[pumpkin bomb]]
* All 9 [[Summon_Resolutions|resolutions]] from the [[Libram of Resolutions]]
* '''[[rock band flyers]]''' and '''[[jam band flyers]]''': you cannot do the [[Mysterious Island Arena]] side quest (for either side).
* [[scrumdiddlyumptious solution]]: You can't use a [[delectable catalyst]], so no [[hi mein]]s or [[The Way of Sauce#Fine Potions|fine potion]]s.
* [[shard of double-ice]]
* '''[[smut orc keepsake box]]'''
* '''[[sonar-in-a-biscuit]]''': You must kill 3 [[screambat]]s in order to face the [[Boss Bat]].
* [[turtlemail bits]], [[snailmail bits]]

===Consumables===
* [[badass pie]] (in fact, you can't use the [[Knob Goblin Organ Grinder]] at all)
* [[Boris's key lime pie]], [[Jarlsberg's key lime pie]]: But not [[Sneaky Pete's key lime pie]].
* [[bucket of wine]]
* [[pumpkin beer]]: Make [[pumpkin pie]]s or [[pumpkin juice]] instead (or plant a different garden).
* [[Crimbojito]] (but the other 5 [[peppermint twist]] drinks are OK).
* [[Strikes Again Bigmouth]]
* Any [[dusty bottle of wine]] in the case any are left over from the Spookyraven Wine Cellar.
* [[Advanced Cocktailcrafting]]: [[fuzzbump]], [[blended frozen swill]], [[bungle in the jungle]]
* [[Superhuman Cocktailcrafting]]: [[yellow brick road]], [[Gordon Bennett]]
* [[Pastamastery]]: [[boring spaghetti]]
* Meins: [[Knob sausage chow mein]], [[Knob lo mein]], [[bat wing chow mein]]. Also, elemental hi meins cannot be made (see above).
* Among spleen items from Mr. Store familiars, {{plural|not-a-pipe}}, {{plural|agua de vida}}, and {{plural|groose grease}} are unavailable in Hardcore, as you can not use a [[tiny bottle of absinthe]] nor adventure with a [[Baby Sandworm]] or [[Bloovian Groose]].
** However, {{plural|Unconscious Collective Dream Jar}}, {{plural|glimmering roc feather}}, and {{plural|coffee pixie stick}} are obtainable as usual.
* 16 of the [[Happy Medium]] [[Siphon Spirits|drinks]], including the [[Sloe Comfortable Zoo]], [[Sloe Comfortable Zoo on Fire]], [[Black Hole]], all 3 [[:Category:Goblins|Goblin]] drinks, all 3 [[:Category:Hippies|Hippy]] drinks, and [[Green Burlap]] (plus others that are less likely to be an issue in a run).
* All burritos ([[insanely spicy enchanted bean burrito]], [[gunpowder burrito]], etc.)

===Equipment===
While any piece of equipment with a B can be worn, players should plan to compensate for the HP loss from wearing one or more of these items. The following are equipment that you are likely to run into during your run.
* '''[[astral bludgeon]], [[astral bracer]], [[astral longbow]], [[astral belt]]'''
* [[bag of many confections]]
* '''all boss drops''': All equippable items dropped and craftable by [[Baron von Ratsworth]], [[Boss Bat]], [[Knob Goblin King]], and [[Bonerdagon]] have "b"s in them.
**In particular, [[badass belt]]
* Starting class weapons: [[disco ball]], [[seal-clubbing club]]
* Class Epic Weapons: [[Bjorn's Hammer]], [[Disco Banjo]]
* Class Legendary Epic Weapons: [[Shagadelic Disco Banjo]], [[Squeezebox of the Ages]]
* [[Boris's ring]], [[Jarlsberg's earring]], [[Sneaky Pete's breath spray]]
* '''[[kickback cookbook]]''', [[Cookbook of the Damned]]
* [[rubber band gun]]
* [[scratch 'n' sniff crossbow]]
* [[Staff of Blood and Pudding]], [[Staff of the November Jack-O-Lantern]], and the [[Staff of the Soupbone]]: Aside from the chefstaves with B's in their name, several chefstaves require elemental hi meins, which cannot be made (see above), depend on other chefstaves which can't be made (since you can't use [[bat guano]], you can't get [[hippy herbal tea]], which prevents you from obtaining a [[Staff of the Teapot Tempest]]). Only the [[Staff of the Greasefire]], [[Staff of the Short Order Cook]], and the [[Staff of the Midnight Snack]] can be created and used in Hardcore without penalty. Although only the [[Staff of the Soupbone]] can be made in Hardcore without a Pumpkin Patch or Pulverize.
* Most [[Armorcraftiness|craftable shields]]: Players using [[Shieldbutt]] can make a [[meat shield]] or reliably obtain the [[giant clay ashtray]] from their [[Your Pen Pal|pen pal]] (as a muscle class) or the [[hot plate]] (guaranteed).
* '''[[swashbuckling pants]]'''
* '''[[unstable fulminate]]'''
* Both the [[War Hippy Fatigues]] (3 B's) and the [[Frat Warrior Fatigues]] (2 B's) have outfit pieces with the letter B. Since the war is (much) faster as a War Hippy, you'll have to compensate for the higher repeated HP loss. (This can be mitigated by doing much of the ducks, filthworms, and lobsterfrogman out of uniform.)

==Useful Skills==
Some highly recommended skills to have in a Bees Hate You run:

* [[Tongue of the Walrus]]: Expect to get beaten up by bees several times. Tongue of the Walrus makes getting Beaten Up much easier to deal with.
* [[Cannelloni Cocoon]]: Very effective at later levels, and makes the Level 12 quest much easier to deal with.
* [[Inigo's Incantation of Inspiration (skill)|Inigo's Incantation of Inspiration]]: Since you cannot install a [[bartender-in-the-box]] or a [[chef-in-the-box]], this skill will come in handy more than ever. Having this permed will save you a lot of turns.

==General Tips==
*Players will not be able to use much housing at all, except for the [[cottage]], the [[ginormous pumpkin]], [[sandcastle]] (only pulled) or [[house of twigs and spit]].
*Players in [[hardcore]] without access to [[Degrassi Knoll#Friendly|friendly Degrassi Knoll]] cannot make a [[bitchin' meatcar]] for access to the [[Desert Beach]] and must either buy a [[Desert Bus pass]] or make a [[pumpkin carriage]].
**You will also have to wait until you have instructions to gather the ingredients for [[wet stunt nut stew]] to obtain access to [[Whitey's Grove]].
**And if you want the [[Filthy Hippy Disguise]] or the [[Frat Boy Ensemble]], you will have to get them from their respective zones.
*Because the monster level boost that "b" enemies receive is percentage-based, the increase in difficulty is minor in early zones, but grows increasingly dangerous in high-level zones. Monsters like [[Possibility Giant]]s, [[Alphabet Giant]]s, [[tomb bat]]s, and [[Beer Bongadier]]s will be significantly stronger than they normally are, so try to keep your combat buffs running and your [[HP Restorers|HP topped off]].

==Quests==
===[[Boss Bat Quest]]===
You cannot use a [[sonar-in-a-biscuit]], so you must kill 3 [[screambat]]s or use a [[snow shovel]].

If you cannot get a [[snow shovel]], then fax a [[screambat]] before doing anything in the bat hole to skip 2 zones, and a big headache. Make sure you acknowledge the quest by talking to the council first, or the screambat doesn't count.

Pick up an [[enchanted bean]] while looking for the last screambat as you will need one for later.

===[[The King of Cobb's Knob Quest]]===
If you use the Harem method, you will take 40% damage. You'll also have to obtain the perfume effect from adventuring, rather than using the [[Knob Goblin perfume|item]]. If you use the Elite Guard method, you will take 60% damage. Further, the Elite Guard outfit is not very helpful because everything in [[The Knob Dispensary]] will be useless to you. Either way, the best way to deal with [[The Knob Goblin King]] is to get initiative and then hit him hard or buff your Moxie to where he can't hit you.

===[[Undefile the Cyrpt Quest]]===
Remember that you cannot use the [[can of Ghuol-B-Gone™]], [[half-rotten brain]], [[rusty bonesaw]], so it's a waste of adventure to get these.

===[[Orc Chasm Quest]]===
The [[smut orc keepsake box]] contains a B, so you can't use those to speed up the bridge.

{{plural|A-Boo clue}} as of February 18, 2013 need to be used to trigger [[The Horror... (A-Boo Peak)|The Horror...]], so [[A-boo Peak]] will take 49 turns.
*Those with [[Comprehensive Cartography]] can encounter one instance of [[The Horror... (A-Boo Peak)|The Horror...]] automatically, reducing hauntedness by 30% right off the bat.

You cannot use 12 [[bubblin' crude]] to make a [[jar of oil]], so you cannot solve the mystery of [[Twin Peak]].  Instead, you must spend 50 turns there and choose to burn the hotel to the ground.<br>
''A wandering bee can override the necessary timed adventure, forcing you to spend another 50 turns to encounter it again if this happens. Using a [[honeypot]] is highly recommended to avoid this issue.
*Pulling a [[crude oil congealer]] in a normal ascension can serve as a workaround to create said [[jar of oil]]. However, due to their untradeable status, you will have to do a [[G-Lover]] [[special challenge path|challenge path]] run to get this ahead of time.

===[[Giant Trash Quest]]===
To plant the [[enchanted bean]], you must click the coffee ground.

* Also, you don't need any letters, so you might be able to quit earlier than usual and avoid alpha-beatings.

===[[Quest for the Holy MacGuffin]]===
In [[The Hidden City]], you cannot unlock [[The Hidden Tavern]], since you'd have to use a [[book of matches|'''b'''ook of matches]]. So you may as well knock over the dumpster at your first opportunity.

You can't use a [[disposable instant camera|disposa'''b'''le instant camera]] to acquire a [[photograph of a dog]], so don't bother [[One Ornate Nightstand|looking under the nightstand]] while you're in Spookyraven.

In [[The Ancient Buried Pyramid]], [[tomb ratchet|tomb ratchets]] ''can'' be used in [[Control Freak]], since they are not being used from the inventory. This is a change since the Pyramid update on June 2, 2014.

If survival is an issue, [[Transcendent Olfaction|sniffing]] the [[Iiti Kitty]] in the Upper Chamber will reduce the number of Tom'''b''' '''B'''ats you encounter, and ideally leave you with a supply of [[ancient Magi-Wipes]] to make the war less painful.

===[[Mysterious Island Quest]]===
Possibly the hardest quest in a Bees Hate You run.

It is important to remember that you do not have to be in the uniform of either side to adventure in the Orchard, Farm, or Beach areas. You only have to wear the uniform after doing what is necessary to complete the quest, and to get the rewards for doing so. However, you cannot adventure in the Themthar Hills without wearing a uniform.

For choosing sides, doing the Hippy side is highly recommended over the Frat Boy side. Because you can't complete [[The Junkyard]] and the [[Mysterious Island Arena]] sidequests due to letter "b" in the required combat items, it'll be much faster on the Hippy side. To compare, it takes 67 turns minimum as a Hippy and 132 turns minimum as a Frat Boy to clear [[The Battlefield]]. You do take 30% damage per turn as a Hippy compared to the 20% as a Frat Boy, so keep your health up.

For the [[McMillicancuddy's Farm]] side-quest, you'll encounter one "b" duck for whatever option you choose for [[Cornered Again!]], so choose according to your taste. You can't use the shortcut for this quest because it requires a [[chaos butterfly]].

===[[Naughty Sorceress Quest]]===
Fighting the [[wall of skin]], you can use the beehive without penalty.

Your [[Shadow Class|Shadow]]'s HP will be boosted if your current title includes one or more instances of the letter "B."  Plan ahead if you are a [[Seal Clubber]], a [[Turtle Tamer]] at level 13, or a [[Disco Bandit]] at level 15+.

Fighting the [[wall of bones]], you can use the electric boning knife without penalty.

The last form of the Naughty Sorceress will be replaced by the [[The Guy Made Of Bees (Bees Hate You)|guy made of bees]]. A [[Wand of Nagamar]] will not defeat him; however, an [[antique hand mirror]] will still do the trick.

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