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Does this adventure actually exist? As of my recent batch of testing (4 or 5 days ending March 29, 2006), I encountered exactly zero of these monsters in 8855 adventures in the alley. Can someone confirm or deny this?--[[User:Yiab|Yiab]] 15:33, 30 March 2006 (CST)
*They do, but you don't see them every ascension.  They're like the buzzy beetles in the 8-bit realm.--[[User:Temporary man|Temporary man]] 16:13, 30 March 2006 (CST)

==Statistics==
{| BORDER=1px CELLPADDING=3 CELLSPACING=0 style="margin-top: .5em"
|- style="background: #EEEEEE"
| Era
| Date
| Encountered
| [[dirty hobo gloves]]
| [[Mad Train wine]]
| [[moxie weed]]
| Information
| Source
|- ALIGN=CENTER
| ROWSPAN=1 style="background: #EEEEEE" | Era 1
| 14-Jly-06
| 1008
| 475
| 908
| 232
| Item Drop Bonus: +50%
| [[User:Yiab|Yiab]]
|}

Needed certainty on the drop rate on the gloves while working on slimeling spading:

{| border="1px" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 1em" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5
|- style="background-color: #EEEEEE"
! Source
! Bonus
! Encountered
! {{plural|dirty hobo gloves}}
|-
! rowspan="9" | [[User:Flargen|Flargen]]
! style="background-color: #F8F8F8; text-align: left" | +184.8035%
| 646
| 575
|-
! style="background-color: #F8F8F8; text-align: left" | +184.7966%
| 403
| 363
|-
! style="background-color: #F8F8F8; text-align: left" | +209.8035%
| 220
| 213
|-
!colspan="2"  style="background-color: #EEEEEE"| Observed Rates<br/>(std. err.)
|.3137<br />(.002835)
|}
So, somewhat remarkably, the gloves are actually a 31% drop rate, not 30% (as is probably commonly believed).  Since this monster (or at least the drunken version this is a clone of) is from the early days of KoL, I take this as believable (beyond just the very strong statistical evidence).  Jick probably hadn't quite settled into his "every rate is a multiple of 5" habits we know him for today.  --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 12:08, 18 September 2011 (CEST)

Took annoyingly long to find the drop rate on the mad train wine.  It's quite a bit lower than the 60% you'd expect from Yiab's data: 57%.  Probably should have switched to testing maxing out the drop sooner than I did, but oh well.  Here's the aggregate data I collected.

{| border="1px" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 1em" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5
|- style="background-color: #EEEEEE"
! Source
! Bonus
! Encountered
! {{plural|dirty hobo gloves}}
! {{plural|Mad Train wine}}
! {{plural|moxie weed}}
|-
! rowspan="11" | [[User:Flargen|Flargen]]
! style="background-color: #F8F8F8; text-align: left" | +174.8035%
| 646
| 575
| 646
|266
|-
! style="background-color: #F8F8F8; text-align: left" | +184.7966%
| 403
| 363
|403
|187
|-
! style="background-color: #F8F8F8; text-align: left" | +199.8035%
| 290
| 277
|290
|119
|-
! style="background-color: #F8F8F8; text-align: left" | +334.5622%
| 103
| 103
| 103
| 67
|-
! style="background-color: #F8F8F8; text-align: left" | +252.4404%
| 144
| 144
| 144
| 87
|-
! style="background-color: #F8F8F8; text-align: left" | +52%
| 675
| 341
| 610
| 150
|-
! style="background-color: #F8F8F8; text-align: left" | +57%
| 100
| 49
|96
|27
|-
! style="background-color: #F8F8F8; text-align: left" | +60%
| 100
| 60
|97
|26
|-
! style="background-color: #F8F8F8; text-align: left" | +63%
| 106
| 56
|105
|22
|-
! style="background-color: #F8F8F8; text-align: left" | +62%
| 164
| 86
| 160
| 49
|-
!colspan="2"  style="background-color: #EEEEEE"| Observed Rates<br/>(std. err.)
|.3204<br />(.00244)
|.6030<br />(.00306)
|.1530<br />(.00337)
|}
The last three +item values in particular mean that the mad train is at most a 57% drop; and the data analysis itself points to 57% as the only statistically valid possibility.  --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 06:33, 22 September 2011 (CEST)
*A bug caused some of my bonuses to be missing a +10% boost I thought was there.  Fixed the data in the table above.  Gloves are 32%, wine 60%, as a result.  --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 06:32, 23 September 2011 (CEST)

==Special Attack Effect==
I received this adventure and I got attacked with a variation of the "He pelts you with a handful of spare change" which gave me three meat. I have unfortunatly forgotton the message and I'm too strong to get hit by the creature anymore,  so I can't confirm exactly what the attack said. I just thought someone may be able to help out here. [[User:Ershatz|Ershatz]] 04:51, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
*Nice. Yeah, it's not actually a variation of the attack message, it's the same one as before but with a new effect. And I can confirm that it's possible to receive it multiple times in one battle. Also I've confirmed that it also exists on the [[drunken half-orc hobo]] as well. --[[User:TheDotGamer|TheDotGamer]] 08:19, 23 March 2007 (CDT)
==Joke Reference==
Okay, I'm getting tired of seeing those revisions going back and forth. I'm going to explain this very, very thoroughly.

1) "Now there's too much blood in your broken-glass-stream."
2) "There's too much caffeine in your blood stream and a lack of real spice in your life."
3) "There's no blood in my alcohol system, officer!"

1 and 3 both deal with alcohol, as the hobo has just smacked you with a bottle of Mad Train. 2 has nothing to do with any kind of joke relating to booze.

1 and 3 also have the "There's too much blood in my x" joke setup. 2 isn't the setup for any kind of joke at all. If the hit message was "Now there's too much broken glass in your blood system", it might be a reference. But it's not. Okay? Okay. No more reverts. --[[User:TechSmurf|TechSmurf]] 15:36, 11 October 2007 (CDT)


This "joke" doesn't even exist.  It's "''There's Too Much Blood In My Alcohol System''!"
The words "There's" and "Blood" are ''not'' a reference.--[[User:DiscoNeckTed|DiscoNeckTed]] 17:38, 11 October 2007 (CDT)
:The meme that a drunk person/hobo often exchanges two words in a sentence to "humorous" effect is the real reference here.  There are plenty of permutations on this idea.
:It's unlikely to be a Smiths reference because the phrase "there's too much X in your blood stream" is simply a common phrase.  Try googling those words; it and very similar variations are quite common when referring to the effect of alcohol and other drugs.  Of course it's ''possible'' that Jick&Co had the Smiths in mind when writing the line, but without explicit words from them to that effect, there's no particular reason to think so. --[[User:Starwed|Starwed]] 17:46, 11 October 2007 (CDT)

The text from the drunken orc is equally vague. ''He vomits up an acidic stew of Mad Train wine and stomach acid, but you dodge this '''corrosion'''. You wish some one would give you some '''sirens'''.''  We have two words that are also united in a ''Sisters of Mercy'' Song.  The hung-over orc is thematically the same (dreary 80's music).--[[User:DiscoNeckTed|DiscoNeckTed]] 18:19, 11 October 2007 (CDT)
:Except for the facts that the name of the song is ''explicitly'' mentioned ([[wikipedia:This Corrosion|This Corrosion]]), and that the second line is a complete non sequitur without the context of said song... ^_^--[[User:Starwed|Starwed]] 11:43, 13 October 2007 (CDT)

==Pickpocket Data==
{| cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" border="1px" style="margin-top: .5em"
|- style="background-color:#EFEFEF;"
! Outcome
! Total
! Percent
|----
|<font color="red">Nothing</font>
!124
!{{#expr:100*(124/701) round 2}}
|----
|[[dirty hobo gloves]]
!139
!{{#expr:100*(139/701) round 2}}
|----
|[[Mad Train wine]]
!303
!{{#expr:100*(303/701) round 2}}
|----
|[[moxie weed]]
!64
!{{#expr:100*(64/701) round 2}}
|----
|[[Boozehounds Anonymous token]]
!71
!{{#expr:100*(71/701) round 2}}
|---- style="height:30px"
|'''Total'''
!701
!100
|}

--[[User:GoldS|GoldS]] 00:09, 4 November 2009 (UTC)