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There is a broken link to the 1000 blank cards (09/09/09).

I started typing in the text of the journal.  I hope this will encourage anyone who has a spare moment to add more pages soon. --[[User:Kazim|Kazim]] 15:10, 25 June 2007 (CDT)

You know there's a text version in-game, right?  You could just copypasta that.--[[User:Barstool|Barstool]] 15:12, 25 June 2007 (CDT)

Just going to say that! Anyway, it's been done. --[[User:Nossidge|Nossidge]] 15:14, 25 June 2007 (CDT)

The last Latin phrase (NOS NON NECESSITAS NULLAS AQUIA PERMISSIUM MATRISFORNICATIO EXURO) translates to "We don't need no Motherf*er's permission to burn the bird/eagle." At least that's what my two years of high school Latin thinks. Anyone know what this means? Also, the other words of the elders are accurate translations of slang-to-Latin--[[User:Killerrabbit|Killerrabbit]] 09:48, 26 June 2007 (CDT)

I was going for "We don't need no water, let the motherfucker burn". I can't claim to actually know any Latin. :) --[[User:Riff|Riff]] 14:53, 27 June 2007 (CDT)

Four years of high school Latin notes that "eagle" is aquila. :) Not getting into the rest; I'd have to actually, like, dig up a L-E dictionary for it, and the intended meaning is pretty obvious. ;) --[[User:SDLynn|SDLynn]] 22:06, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
:I was going to point out the same thing. Aquia, as opposed to aqui''l''a, appears to be some sort of badly declined aqua. --[[User:Missingno|Missingno]] 06:10, 3 July 2007 (CDT)

Anyone know what page 6 is about? I know the glyphs correspond to the wine bottles but does the sequence mean anything or is it just nonsense? [[User:Discordance|Discordance]] 16:21, 27 June 2007 (CDT)

Just noticing, the diary seems really similar to the journals from the Myst games.  Anyone else think it's similar enough to note in the references?--[[User:Blackwaltz|Blackwaltz]] 20:47, 27 June 2007 (CDT)
: Absolutely. 'twas the first thing I thought of once I saw it. --[[User:Soulcleaver|Soulcleaver]] 8 July 2007
::+1 (late). I think it wouldn't be crazy to add this as a reference, though I'm sure it would meet resistance. The style is so similar... [[User:Notsupposedtobehere|Notsupposedtobehere]] 11:56, 8 July 2012 (CEST)

Just making sure I'm not the only one who noticed this, but not all of the Latin phrases are just Latin...there's a few Pig Latin words thrown in, like owthray, aveway, ikelay, imestay, onnagay, etlay, and atwhay.--[[User:Ungoliath|Ungoliath]] 01:43, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

I sequenced a midi of the notation on the bottom of page five, but I don't know what it's supposed to be. Should I host the file somewhere and link it? Or would coldfront be willing to host it? --[[User:Nathew|Nathew]] 02:48, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

Having played it on the piano, we've come to a couple of conclusions about the peice of music: first, bars go 3.5 beats, 3.5 beats, 4, 4; secondly, there's a dischord in there which is only normally seen in a. Incidental music, and b. modern classical. --[[User:Catkiller|Catkiller]] 16:22, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

The first bar is "Shave and a Haircut" in minor key. (I wasted way too much time in the Haunted Bathroom after figuring that out...) The second bar sounds very much like the puzzle theme from "The Seventh Guest" game but it's been a while since I've heard that, so I'm not totally sure about that one. --[[User:Stellaria|Stellaria]] 08:06, 29 June 2007 (CDT)

Ok, I went through a bunch of 7th Guest and 11th Hour midis I found online. While the second line is indeed very similar to some of the themes, there's no direct match that I could find. (I no longer have my program that converts midi to sheet music, which would have been nice for this.) Maybe it's some other game?--[[User:Stellaria|Stellaria]] 19:51, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
:Heh, the clef signs are missing, otherwise it would be immediately obvious that it is the ''bass line'' for Shave and a Haircut. --[[User:Jonrock|Jonrock]] 21:12, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
:(smacks head) Well, der. I think you are right. It certainly works as a bass line. Now the question is, what, if anything, does it mean? --[[User:Stellaria|Stellaria]] 21:55, 29 June 2007 (CDT)

:I've uploaded a MIDI of the sheet music here, assuming that the bottom line is bass clef:  [http://destroyerbeacon.googlepages.com/CuriousSheetMusic.mid] --[[User:DestroyerBEACON|DestroyerBEACON]] 09:51, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

has anyone figured out what the glyphs mean?--[[User:Lote|Lote]] 19:47, 3 July 2007 (CDT)

*Much like the phrases for the leaflet, the Dev Team has specificly asked that this puzzle not be spoiled. I think its a good idea to say "there is a puzzle" or something, but I think even this discussion goes too far. Should we just nuke it? --[[User:CluckyB|CluckyB]] 22:42, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
**It is done. It's pretty easy to solve, actually, and once enough people have it we can probably [[:File:chamber6.gif|spoiler it]]. --{{User:Quietust/sig}} 22:49, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
**Alternatively, you could respect the wishes of TPTMBG on this matter. --[[User:Jonbly|Jonbly]] 03:21, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
**Actually, the TPTMBG haven't said not to spoil it, just that it discourages spoilage...--[[User:Lord kobel|Lord kobel]] 03:59, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
**actually actually, any one who's actually solved it knows damn well that there is included exlpicit instructions from the admins not to spoil the answer.--[[User:T Sarducci|T Sarducci]] 11:16, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
**The glyphs having something to do with (spoiler).

==Read to complete quest?==
I had a hunch on something, so I tried it. I didn't open the diary and did the hidden temple for 15 or so adventures without anything special. Then I went through the entire diary and got all three adventures very soon. Coincidence? --[[User:MrAndersonMan|MrAndersonMan]] 05:29, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
:No; you can't do any of the quests without reading the appropriate section of the journal first.  (Even people with snake charms couldn't get into the palindrome unless they'd read the right page first.) --[[User:Starwed|Starwed]] 05:56, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

==New Diary Images?==
I've been through a few NS-13 ascensions now and today's the first time I noticed the pic on the last page is different.  It now includes a "password: swordfish" next to the snakehead charrrm.--[[User:Golem Yeti|Golem Yeti]] 23:18, 28 November 2007 (CST)
*I am guessing that it has to do with the pirate revamp that is on the horizon. --[[User:Chunky boo|Chunky_boo]] 23:20, 28 November 2007 (CST)
*I didn't want to edit the page because I'm not sure, but does anyone else think Password: swordfish" is a reference to Return To Zork? There's a part early in the game where you have to get into a paranoid lighthouse keeper's lighthouse, and he goes, "What's the password? I can't let you in without the password! Now don't try swordfish; I know it's not that. I tried it myself, <I>I</i> couldn't get in! So I KNOW it's not that." It's so sad that I actually remember this. [[User:Genofreek|Genofreek]] 12:08, 3 December 2007 (CST)
**Swordfish is referenced as a password a lot: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThePasswordIsAlwaysSwordfish [[User:Robert McFarlane|Robert McFarlane]] 10:15, 4 December 2007 (CST)

==Indiana Jones Reference==

It should be noted that this diary, and in fact many parts of the level 11 quest are rather blatant references to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Jones_And_The_Last_Crusade ''Indana Jones and the Last Crusade''] I'm not sure if this is referenced elsewhere, but it should definitely be noted, and it is not here.--[[User:The 3000th flare|The 3000th flare]] 17:29, 23 February 2008 (CST)
:[[Quest for the Holy MacGuffin#References|It is already where it is supposed to be]].  It could perhaps be expanded a bit and separated from the Monty Python reference, though.  --[[User:Flargen|Flargen]] 20:04, 23 February 2008 (CST)

==Bor 11==
Page 3 of the diary references an imaginary date. 
"Bor 11: Discovered a passage about the Temple in a book on ancient religious architecture. Appears to contain notes about some kind of ritual. Significant?"
Bor 11 is actually Petember 3. Anyone have any idea if this means something?
--[[User:Barbarian7|Barbarian7]] 08:24, 14 March 2008 (CDT)

==The complete palindrome==
Not sure if it is already somewhere else, or mayby no-one noticed, but if you finish the uncomplete palindrome on page 7 ("God, a red nugget, a fat egg") it fully reads: "God, a red nugget, a fat egg under a dog"... This is the hint to also use the Ketchup Hound as the fourth item, and that the egg should be at the bottom. Maybe to spoilery or maybe worth posting in Notes?--[[User:Sjerrul|Sjerrul]] 00:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== In-Game Text ==

Looking at the history, this has happened several times. The "(???)" and the "We do not...?" is ''not'' the wiki having an incomplete translation. That is what the actual item says in the game. It might belong in the Notes section, but people need to quit changing the actual in-game text record. - [[User:Msanychta|Msanychta]] 15:20, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

==Bananas==

Can someone please explain how we got from
"II: VERBUM MAJORES
PAUCI IMESTAY EGO INTER UT SEMIA SIC NON IUSTUS ONNAGAY OCCURO AMO UT ETLAY ME AUDITE LOCUTUS ATWHAY HIC EXCRETIA EST
(Trans: The Word of the Elders -- A few times I've been around that track, so it's not just gonna happen like that. Let me hear you say what this (???) is." (hollaback girl)

to BANANAS?? I cannot see how this clue gives you that answer. [[User:Kahlzun|Kahlzun]] 09:55, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

==Sheet music==
Just a thought: Has anybody ever actually tried playing the piece of music shown in the diary? I'd be surprised if it didn't turn out to be something recognizable. -[[User:Captain Video|Captain Video]] ([[User talk:Captain Video|talk]]) 04:08, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
*It's in the talk above, look in the June 2007 comments. --{{User:Club/sig}} 06:06, 25 February 2013 (UTC)