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The recipes using this might end up being too big (width specifically).  We may not want to go full depth. Besides being a pain to read, they are a pain to make ;-).  Maybe just go one level, else imagine for [[Staff of the Grease Trap]]!!! OMG --[[User:JRSiebz|JRSiebz]] ([[User talk:JRSiebz|&#x260E;]]|[[Special:Contributions/JRSiebz|&#167;]]|[[Special:Listusers/sysop|&#8225;]]) 22:45, 5 July 2007 (CDT)

== Table Options ==

=== Full Detail ===
<TABLE CELLPADDING=3 CELLSPACING=0 BORDER=1px>
<TR ALIGN=center STYLE="background-color: #FFFFFF">
<td STYLE="background-color: #FFFFFF">{{smith}}</td>
<TD>[[bigger stick]]</TD>
<TD>[[dense meat stack]]</TD>
<TD style="background-color: #FFFFFF" width=32>{{cook}}</TD>
<TD>[[spices]]</TD>
<TD>[[herbs]]</TD>
<TD colspan=12 style="background-color: #FFFFFF"></TD>
</TR>
<TR ALIGN=center style="background-color: #EEEEEE">
<td STYLE="background-color: #FFFFFF">{{smith}}</td>
<TD COLSPAN=2>[[dense meat staff]]</TD>
<TD COLSPAN=3>[[secret blend of herbs and spices]]</TD>
<td colspan=1 style="background-color: #FFFFFF">&nbsp;</td>
<td style="background-color: #FFFFFF">{{WayofSauce}}</td>
<td>3 {{plural|sleaze nuggets}}</td>
<td>3 {{plural|scrumdiddlyumptious solution}}</td>
<TD colspan=5 style="background-color: #FFFFFF"></TD>
<td style="background-color: #FFFFFF">{{smash}}</td>
<td>250 {{plural|sleaze powder}}</td>
<td rowspan="2" style="background-color:#FFFFFF"></td>
</TR>
<TR ALIGN=center style="background-color: #DDDDDD">
<TD style="background-color: #FFFFFF">{{smith}}</TD>
<TD COLSPAN=5>[[Kentucky-fried meat staff]]</TD>
<TD COLSPAN=1>[[goat cheese]]</TD>
<td style="background-color: #FFFFFF">{{kick}}</td>
<td colspan="2">3 {{plural|sleazy and sour sauce}}</td>
<td>3 {{plural|MSG}}</td>
<td>3 {{plural|dry noodles}}</td>
<TD style="background-color: #FFFFFF">{{cocktail}}</TD>
<TD>[[warm mushroom]]</TD>
<TD>[[mushroom fermenting solution]]</TD>
<td style="background-color: #FFFFFF">{{smash}}</td>
<td>50 {{plural|sleaze nuggets}}</td>
</tr>
<TR ALIGN=center style="background-color: #CCCCCC">
<TD style="background-color: #FFFFFF">{{staffcrafting}}</TD>
<TD COLSPAN=6>[[giant cheesestick]]</TD>
<td colspan="5">3 {{plural|sleazy hi mein}}</td>
<TD COLSPAN=3>[[flat mushroom wine]]</TD>
<td colspan=2>10 {{plural|sleaze wad}}</td>
<td>[[flirtatious feather]]</td>
</TR>
<TR ALIGN=center style="background-color: #BBBBBB">
<TD style="background-color: #FFFFFF">{{equals}}</TD>
<TD COLSPAN=17>[[Staff of the Grease Trap]]</TD>
</TR></Table>

All that mess and I STILL forgot the [[flirtatious feather]]! --[[User:JRSiebz|JRSiebz]] ([[User talk:JRSiebz|&#x260E;]]|[[Special:Contributions/JRSiebz|&#167;]]|[[Special:Listusers/sysop|&#8225;]]) 22:47, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
*Dear god! Abort! Abort! It's going critical! ...Ahem. I think we may have to modify the setup for recipes if we're going to use them for chefstaves. Or, we could just nix putting recipes on chefstaff pages. --[[User:TechSmurf|TechSmurf]] 23:10, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
**Maybe one page with all the chefstaff recipes on it, perhaps with a width warning? --[[User:Sparksol|Sparksol]]
**Update: Added the silly feather up ''above''. --[[User:JRSiebz|JRSiebz]] ([[User talk:JRSiebz|&#x260E;]]|[[Special:Contributions/JRSiebz|&#167;]]|[[Special:Listusers/sysop|&#8225;]]) 18:06, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

=== Full Detail (Small Text) ===
{| cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" border="1" style="background-color:#FFFFFF" width="300px"
|style="background-color: #FFFFFF"|{{smith}}
|align="center"|<small>[[bigger stick]]</small>
|align="center"|<small>[[dense meat stack]]</small>
|style="background-color: #FFFFFF" |{{cook}}
|align="center"|<small>[[spices]]</small>
|align="center"|<small>[[herbs]]</small>
|colspan="11" width="300px" style="background-color:#FFFFFF"|
|-
|style="background-color:#FFFFFF" align="center"|{{smith}}
|align="center" colspan="2" style="background-color:#EEEEEE"|<small>[[dense meat staff]]</small>
|align="center" colspan="3" style="background-color:#EEEEEE"|<small>[[secret blend of herbs and spices]]</small>
|colspan="1" style="background-color:#FFFFFF"|&nbsp;
|style="background-color:#FFFFFF"|{{WayofSauce}}
|align="center" style="background-color:#EEEEEE"|<small>3 {{plural|sleaze nuggets}}</small>
|align="center" style="background-color:#EEEEEE"|<small>3 {{plural|scrumdiddlyumptious solution}}</small>
|colspan="5" style="background-color: #FFFFFF"|
|style="background-color:#FFFFFF"|{{smash}}
|align="center" style="background-color:#EEEEEE"|<small>250 {{plural|sleaze powder}}</small>
|-
|style="background-color:#FFFFFF"|{{smith}}
|align="center" style="background-color:#DDDDDD" colspan="5"|<small>[[Kentucky-fried meat staff]]</small>
|align="center" style="background-color:#DDDDDD" colspan="1"|<small>[[goat cheese]]</small>
|style="background-color:#FFFFFF"|{{kick}}
|align="center" style="background-color:#DDDDDD" colspan="2"|<small>3 {{plural|sleazy and sour sauce}}</small>
|align="center" style="background-color:#DDDDDD"|<small>3 {{plural|MSG}}</small>
|align="center" style="background-color:#DDDDDD"|<small>3 {{plural|dry noodles}}</small>
|style="background-color: #FFFFFF"|{{cocktail}}
|align="center" style="background-color:#DDDDDD"|<small>[[warm mushroom]]</small>
|align="center" style="background-color:#DDDDDD"|<small>[[mushroom fermenting solution]]</small>
|style="background-color: #FFFFFF"|{{smash}}
|align="center" style="background-color:#DDDDDD"|<small>50 {{plural|sleaze nuggets}}</small>
|-
|style="background-color: #FFFFFF"|{{staffcrafting}}
|align="center" style="background-color:#CCCCCC" colspan="6"|<small>[[giant cheesestick]]</small>
|align="center" style="background-color:#CCCCCC" colspan="5"|<small>3 {{plural|sleazy hi mein}}</small>
|align="center" style="background-color:#CCCCCC" colspan="3"|<small>[[flat mushroom wine]]</small>
|align="center" style="background-color:#CCCCCC" colspan="2"|<small>10 {{plural|sleaze wad}}</small>
|-
|style="background-color: #FFFFFF"|{{equals}}
|align="center" style="background-color:#BBBBBB" colspan="16"|<small>[[Staff of the Grease Trap]]</small>
|}
...Hmmm. That seems to be as small as it can be shrunk down. Even width tags won't reduce it beyond a certain size. (And yes, I did convert the whole table over. I like wiki tables. Sue me.) --[[User:TechSmurf|TechSmurf]] 00:04, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
*...and you forgot the feather. :P --{{User:Quietust/sig}} 19:10, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

=== Minimalist ===
<TABLE CELLPADDING=3 CELLSPACING=0 BORDER=1px>
<TR ALIGN=center style="background-color: #FFFFFF">
<TD style="background-color: #FFFFFF">{{staffcrafting}}</TD>
<TD>[[giant cheesestick]]</TD>
<td>3 {{plural|sleazy hi mein}}</td>
<TD>[[flat mushroom wine]]</TD>
<td>10 {{plural|sleaze wad}}</td>
<td>[[flirtatious feather]]</td>
</TR>
<TR ALIGN=center style="background-color: #EEEEEE">
<TD style="background-color: #FFFFFF">{{equals}}</TD>
<TD COLSPAN=5>[[Staff of the Grease Trap]]</TD>
</TR></Table>

*Doing just one level doesn't look bad, but it's not as useful. --[[User:JRSiebz|JRSiebz]] ([[User talk:JRSiebz|&#x260E;]]|[[Special:Contributions/JRSiebz|&#167;]]|[[Special:Listusers/sysop|&#8225;]]) 18:06, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

*I favour this approach over anything else. It's simplistic and condensed. In the recipe for the [[pixel shield]], we don't bother to point out that you ''could'' craft 30 reds, 30 greens, and 30 blues to make the 10 whites. In a similar vein, I don't think we need to illustrate every single possible step for a chefstaff's ingredients.

:Consider this: A person who sees the page for the [[Staff of the Grease Trap]] currently has to go to [[Rodoric, the Staffcrafter|Rodoric's]] page to find the recipe, and then, if they're curious about sleazy hi mein, or the giant cheesestick, must click that link to find the recipe. By introducing the above recipe table, this removes one click, looks good on a page, and is as useful as can be without being utterly absurd. The only way to remove all clicks altogether would be to use one of these other templates, which are good efforts, I must admit, but are entirely too ungainly to actually put on pages. The above table, I believe, is the optimal solution. --[[User:Southwest|Southwest]] 22:46, 8 September 2007 (CDT)

Nobody can have access to the Wok and the Malus at the same time, so having the *entire* recipe is sort of a red herring.  It looks cool to see so many skills for one item, but I wonder if just "See [[Rodoric]]" would end up being more useful. --[[User:Jonrock|Jonrock]] 18:56, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

=== Vertical ===
Heh. How about transposing? --[[User:Bagatelle|Bagatelle]] 22:25, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
{| style="text-align:center; font-size:75%" border="1px" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" 
|-
|width="125pt" |{{smith}}
|width="125pt" |{{smith}}
|width="125pt" |{{smith}}
|width="125pt" |{{staffcrafting}}
|width="125pt" |{{equals}}
|-
|[[bigger stick]]
|rowspan="2" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" |[[dense meat staff]]
|rowspan="5" bgcolor="#DDDDDD" |[[Kentucky-fried meat staff]]
|rowspan="6" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" |[[giant cheesestick]]
|rowspan="18" bgcolor="#BBBBBB" |[[Staff of the Grease Trap]]
|-
|[[dense meat stack]]
|-
|{{cook}}
|rowspan="3" bgcolor="#EEEEEE" |[[secret blend of herbs and spices]]
|-
|[[spices]]
|-
|[[herbs]]
|-
|rowspan="13" |&nbsp;
|rowspan="2" |&nbsp;
|bgcolor="#DDDDDD" |[[goat cheese]]
|-
|{{kick}}
|rowspan="7" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"|{{plural|sleazy hi mein|3}}
|-
|{{cook}}
|rowspan="3" bgcolor="#DDDDDD" |3 {{plural|sleazy and sour sauce}}
|-
|bgcolor="#EEEEEE" |3 {{plural|sleaze nuggets}}
|-
|bgcolor="#EEEEEE" |3 {{plural|scrumdiddlyumptious solution}}
|-
|rowspan="8" |&nbsp;
|-
|bgcolor="#DDDDDD" |3 {{plural|MSG}}
|-
|bgcolor="#DDDDDD" |3 {{plural|dry noodles}}
|-
|{{cocktail}}
|rowspan="3" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" |[[flat mushroom wine]]
|-
|bgcolor="#DDDDDD" |[[warm mushroom]]
|-
|bgcolor="#DDDDDD" |[[mushroom fermenting solution]]
|-
|rowspan="2" |&nbsp;
|bgcolor="#CCCCCC" |10 {{plural|sleaze wad}}
|-
|bgcolor="#CCCCCC" |[[flirtatious feather]]
|}