Talk:Sword behind inappropriate prepositions

• should that not, rather than "on", be "by your side," or is that inappropriateness apposite? --Evilkolbot 01:45, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
  • It looks like it should be, so I fixed it.--Piroteknix 02:05, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
    • "at your side" would also be correct, but we'll probably never know what it was 'supposed' to be. --Quietust 09:05, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
      • at, by, and on are options in the list below. if the preposition is always inappropriate that would be one way of working it out. --Evilkolbot 10:15, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
        • I downloaded the page a couple of hundred times, and at no point was the first word "to" or the second word "above"... I didn't check the others... it seems it's always wrong. Phlip 14:11, 17 August 2006 (CDT)
        • Well, I went through and found out which preposition it refused to give me for each one... and the verdict is "on your side". Phlip 14:39, 17 August 2006 (CDT)
        • because people (ok, me) are so sceptical, and "on" is wrong in context, i did some research. i downloaded the page 1000 times and saw which words didn't occur in the various positions. it's definitely on. i have a spreadsheet of results (and the 1000 pages) if anyone doubts me. kmail me in-game and i'll email you a copy. of the spreadsheet, obviously, although it's not very interesting. --Evilkolbot 09:44, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
          • Technically, "on" is not incorrect - the sword is "on your side", as opposed to "on their side". --Quietust 14:15, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
          • another misunderstanding, i missed that this sword is sentient and can take sides. i forgot this was fantasy and such things are commonplace. --Evilkolbot 17:14, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
        • Out of boredom (during my lunch break at work), I did a similar experiment with 500 page loads and came to the same conclusion. --Quietust 14:14, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
  • Regardless of what it randomizes to, when a word takes the place of "before" in the final sentence, it is taking the place of a conjunction, and therefore the sword involves inappropriate prepositions and one inappropriate conjunction.--Green Lemur 10:32, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
    • True, Lemur, but the word "before" in that final sentence never changes, so the point is moot. When it changes another preposition to before, before remains a preposition, eg. "You hit your opponent before the thigh for 30 damage" or "with this sword before your side." That having been said, I've removed the line that mentions "before" is a conjunction and unbolded the word in the description paragraph, as it has no more bearing than any of the other unbolded words.Jimmyfisher 15:19, 9 October 2006 (CDT)
      • Actually, it does' change - try actually looking at the description in-game before making assumptions. The note about 'before' in that cirumstances pertains to the fact that the game treats it as a preposition even though it is not actually a preposition. --Quietust 15:35, 9 October 2006 (CDT)

It might be worth noting that the sword name, itself, contains an inappropriate preposition. "Sword of inappropriate preposisions" would be more . . . appropriate. --Half-a-bee 17:28, 02 September 2006 (CDT)

Uh, that's the joke. --Someone Else 18:21, 2 September 2006 (CDT)

Possible prepositions

These are the prepositions I've found so far. Should these be added to the item page?

• about
• above
• across
• after
• against
• along
• among
• around
• at
• before
• behind
• below
• beneath
• beside
• between
• beyond
• by
• down
• during
• except
• for
• from
• in
• inside
• into
• like
• near
• of
• off
• on
• onto
• out
• outside
• over
• past
• through
• throughout
• to
• under
• up
• upon
• with
• within
• without

--Piroteknix 02:07, 16 August 2006 (CDT)

• This looks like a job for <RandomlySelect> (in {{preposition}}) - "If you want after rise after the masses after the field after combat, then this is the sword you should have after your hand or strapped after your belt. Its temper and sharpness are head and shoulders after the rest. One two, one two, and after and after -- after this sword after your side, it won't be long after victory is after your reach." --Quietust 09:03, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
  • I added a couple more to the list, I think that's the lot. Phlip 14:10, 17 August 2006 (CDT)

• • shouldn't test/preposition take the appropriate preposion as a parameter, so that the one returned is inappropriate? --Evilkolbot 09:47, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

Obscure Reference?

Probably too obscure, but it does seem so similar. The mathematical poetry group Oulipo has a poetic method called N+7. For a given existing text, and a given dictionary, replace every noun with a noun seven words down in the dictionary. Example:

Using The Living Language Common Usage Dictionary: English-Russian, the opening of the book of Genesis becomes:

In the bend God created the hen and the education. And the education was without founder, and void; and death was upon the falsehood of the demand. And the sport of God moved upon the falsehood of the wealth. And God said, Let there be limit; and there was limit.

source for example

--Club 13:38, 16 August 2006 (CDT)

Effects in combat

I noticed the sword also replaces the prepositions while gaining of effects in combat (such as poison) with inappropriate ones. i.e. You are poisoned near the attack. Is this worth mentioning somewhere or is it included in "replaces prepositions in combat with random inappropriate prepositions"?--Piroteknix 11:50, 1 September 2006 (CDT)

• I do believe that falls except the umbrella throughout inappropriate prepositions against combat. --Katarani 14:54, 1 September 2006 (CDT)

Recipie doesn't work

I'm having trouble with the recipie. Every time I try to combine a chrome sword with a facsimile dictionary, I get the "doesn't make anything interesting" message. I reverse the order, and I get the same result. And yes, I do have Super-Advanced Meatsmithing. What am I doing wrong? --Thatkidsam 17:45, 8 September 2006 (CDT)

• Why are you combining, shouldn't you be smithing, you know, with a tenderizing hammer?--JRSiebz (☎|§|‡) 17:51, 8 September 2006 (CDT)

You don't combine them, you smith them. --Hellion 17:50, 8 September 2006 (CDT)

• ...Wow, I need to play more often, so I don't make these mistakes... --Thatkidsam 23:59, 8 September 2006 (CDT)