Talk:Avatar of Shadows Over Loathing

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Does killing the Shadows over Loathing Naughty Sorceress substitute with as much cursed gear as you can wear do anything special ( cursed goblin cape, cursed machete, cursed arcane orb, cursed medallion, cursed dragon wishbone, cursed bat paw)? Not as far as I can tell. Granted, that was one time as a Jazz Agent, but if there is a trophy or something that isn't enough.--Noskilz (talk) 04:19, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Jurassic Parka Strategy Advice

Under the Strategy Advice Section, we get this advice: "If you have a Jurassic Parka, make sure you pick a moon sign that gives you access to The Gnomish Gnomad Camp, so you can purchase Torso Awaregness. That plus the bus pass will set you back 10,000 meat, so budget accordingly."

This advice is some variation of unnecessary or wrong? If you use the Jurassic Parka without the skill Torso Awareness you get a Letter to Melvign the Gnome, same as if you used any other shirt for the first time in the run. And completing Melvign's quest will result in giving you the skill Torso Awareness. So I'm not sure if this advice is necessary--if it is necessary, it seems incomplete. --Love Elemental (talk) 05:05, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

You're right that you can get Torso Awareness via The Shirt Off His Lack of Back, but it takes 22 turns to do so, which means it's not relevant for speedy runs. But you're still correct, the gnome sign is not a hard requirement. It should probably be mentioned on the page itself. Feel free to add it, I just wrote that section real quick so we'd have something instead of a blank space. --Akatosh (talk) 15:06, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Skill Points

To clarify, you get 1 skill point per run (2 for hardcore), that allows you to get a skill regardless of level...but does it still cost the normal meat cost? --Jimfromtx (talk) 09:52, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

No, if you pay with skill points, it doesn't cost you any Meat. --Akatosh (talk) 14:00, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Seagoing Jazz Agents

After 55 adventures in the Diver Bar at -25 combat, I'm pretty sure Grandpa hasn't got time for jazz. --Clovis Sangrail (talk) 23:45, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

  • up, i had the same experience. kicking off my second run through the classes today, i'll check the other two, will report back in a week. --Evilkolbot (talk) 11:09, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Seagoing everyone else

  • just found grandpa as a pig skinner. looks like it's just jazz agents. when i get round to it i'll check that he's not hiding somewhere else. --Evilkolbot (talk) 12:26, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
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