Talk:Guy Made Of Bees

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I used an antique hand mirror and got this message:

You hold the mirror up in front of your opponent for a second, and then it slips out of your fingers and shatters on the ground at your feet. As this happens, each of the bees that comprise your opponent disintegrates, and they all fall to the ground in a puff of black and yellow. Pshew.

but then also got beat up. I think there may be a bug in this.--Foggy 00:34, 8 November 2006 (CST)


I wore a Makeshift Turban while fighting him, and the bees failed to sting me. Also, I said the chant in front of the mirror 11 times after defeating him, and did not get him again. I'm pretty sure he's a one-drop fight. --Bubo 10:40, 8 November 2006 (CST)

  • I gave the turban a shot, didn't work as I suspected. --Tingly 19:11, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

...one time defeat?

I killed him, then I did like that 5 times again, and got this message: You say "Guy made of bees" into the mirror, but nothing happens. Looks like that ship is sailed. And the ship was made of bees, and it sailed in the air.

anyody know anythin?--Kewangji 10:53, 8 November 2006 (CST)

This might be a dumb question, but after he beats your butt into the ground (like he did me), can you get him again? Or was that my only chance in this ascension? --Duckyguy 21:41, 22 August 2007 (PST)

info to add

You're fighting The Guy Made Of Bees You failed to hit the monster. The swarm of bees envelops you, stinging viciously from all sides. Ouch! Ooh! Argh! Argh! Eek! Ugh! Oof! Ooh! Argh! Ugh! You lose 73,078 hit points.

HP loss is high and the miss message was generic. --Raijinili 23:33, 8 November 2006 (CST)

So, I got the "Having a Medicine Ball" twice (never before receiving it, and both times I chose the guy of bees option), and after five fights, I've gotten a malevolent hair clog and a toilet papergeist. Am I missing something? --Asinine 13:39, 8 September 2007 (CDT)

  • This thing is is that you hae to get "Having a Medicine Ball" five times and each time say guy made of bees. After the fifth time you say it you will enter a fight with him it's not say it once and in five turns you will fight him. --Chunky_boo 13:52, 8 September 2007 (CDT)

References

    • 10-8-2010**

Can't believe it's not on here, but theres a myth that says if you say Biggy Smalls 5 times to a mirror on halloween night, he will appear to busta cap in yo' ass.

  • A mouth-like hole opens in the figure's "head", and the droning of the swarm modulates into a harsh, grating voice: "We are Bees. We hate you."

This refers to Borg in Star Trek. Both that they say "We are Borg" and they sort of use many voices to say one thing. Could someone write up this in some good way on the content page, as I am bad at that. -- NitraMo SA TT 14:29, 9 November 2006 (CST)

So, I removed the Candyman reference, after apparently re-adding it for the nth time. The big reason it was originally removed is apparently the fact that an in-game backstory for the Guy made of bees was added. Of course, that is in no way an indication that two of his features (summoned by saying his name five times in front of a mirror, and the swarm of bees that killed the Candyman and and subsequently terrorizes those who invoke him) are not originally inspired by the film Candyman. The existence of the backstory is a horrible reason to deny this reference.
One of the other anti-candyman-ers wrote in a comment that a reference has to be intentional and TPTB had not seen the movie Candyman. If that's the case... well, I think they're mistaken, and someone at least told them about the movie or they forgot they saw it, but that's just my opinion and not wiki material. Can someone link to that permanently in this section of the discussion (or perhaps in actual references section), so that it can easily be pointed out to me and anyone else trying to add the Candyman reference?
Or, if the backstory is indeed the only reason that this reference isn't in there... add it back. Because, well... "Candyman, Candyman, Candyman, Candyman, Candyman" leads to "AUUGHGGAHH, bees!" -- TheShrike 20:31 EST, 17 May 2008

  • When the person in charge of the content says it's a reference to something completely different, I think we should be inclined to believe him. Instructions saying that this isn't a Candyman reference have already been left on the page as an HTML comment. --Bagatelle 17:32, 18 May 2008 (CDT)

Is there some reason why the actual References section couldn't simply explain that despite the obvious link between this and the film, they are not related? If nothing else, it might cut down on people throwing the reference in there every couple weeks, since, frankly, even after seeing the content writer say they're not related, I'm still not even really convinced myself. Bakapyrite 23:02, 4 July 2008 (CDT)

  • I would presume because it's mildly insulting to directly say "this is not a reference to x" on the article. Additionally, the "Not References" section of every article could get... rather long. --Bagatelle 11:55, 5 July 2008 (CDT)
    • Well, Riff did say that "repeating a name X times summons scary dude Y" is a common folk lore trope. We could add a reference to that effect, possibly mentioning Candyman as one well-known source. If someone could find a wikipedia link or something to support this claim of Riff's that'd be really nice; my last half-assed attempt didn't yield anything. In a related note, isn't the Bloody Mary reference that's currently on the page basically falling under the same "not a reference" umbrella as the Candy Man one? --Flargen 15:27, 5 July 2008 (CDT)
      • I'd always thought that Bloody Mary was the (for lack of a better word) "original" trope. She was the mechanism by which I first became aware of the mirror-type stories and figures prominently in the random Google searches I did. 'Course, Candyman had equal Google prominence, but Mary's got several centuries on him. --Bagatelle 21:10, 5 July 2008 (CDT)
        • Given the amount of specific discussion this particular thing has generated, I think it's noteworthy to mention on its own merits. --04:21, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

All I have to say is that for something that is supposedly not a deliberate reference, there are a lot of direct connections to Candyman: not just speaking his name, but speaking his name exactly five times while looking into a mirror (normally three times is the "magic" number for most folk tales, and mirrors aren't involved); the antique hand mirror (destroying the ancient hand mirror that contains his soul is the only way to permanently destroy the Candyman); and, of course, the bees. With so many direct analogues, it's rather difficult to believe that it's not meant to be a Candyman reference, despite Riff's statement. Is he the only one who wrote the GMoB's text? - The Wrassedragon 07:04, 13 August 2008 (CDT)

  • yes. full stop. --Evilkolbot 15:14, 13 August 2008 (CDT)

Auto-Attack

I have my auto-attack set for lunging thrust-smack, but when I encountered this enemy, I didn't auto-attack it (I still had plenty of MP). Is that worth noting in the article? What other encounters have this same property? (probably all the tower monsters and your shadow, if nothing else). --TheArchivist 20:32, 17 November 2006 (CST)

Insane Myst

Has some sauceror with insanely high myst tried to 1-hit this guy (like the tower monsters) ?--Darkness 21:36, 29 November 2006 (CST)

He was a one-hit for this Level 14 Disco Bandit, without getting beat up, using Ambidextrous Funkslinging to use the mirror and black pepper. I thought "well it is a stun", but black pepper is a de-leveler. --Jzp 10:09, 18 January 2008 (CST)

Mirror ALWAYS is a one-hit against the GMoB, dude. --Akatosh 11:09, 18 January 2008 (CST)

No Longer True

The Wikipage says that it can only be defeated using the antique hand mirror. This isn't true, you just have to be very strong. --Pigthecow 13:47, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

  • For all intents and purposes, it is true. It's really only false when you're Cobain Dougans. --Quietust (t|c) 14:17, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

Easy Arena Completion!

I found out today that slapping a single poster on the Guy will finish the Mysterious Island Arena quest in one hit.

Of course, then he hits you. Thatès not as fun. It still works, though. --BeatlesLover 17:56, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

  • if you have the skill entangling noodles you can cast that and then advertise without getting owned. --El taco 02:51, 17 September 2007 (CDT)
    • just killed the GMOB with the flyers in my off hand. no completion. damn! has the mechanic changed, or did i boo-boo? --Evilkolbot 04:59, 2 March 2008 (CST)
    • stand easy, used a rocky raccoon instead. boy do i feel dumb. --Evilkolbot 14:37, 2 March 2008 (CST)

I found out today that if you have double handed funk slinging, and you slap him with the flyers and use a divine champaign popper, you get away without being beaten up, and still get the quest completion for the flyers. --Vladinator 21:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Yes, I've noticed recently that you can suddenly use comabt-escapers in the second funkslinging slot. No idea if this was intentional or not, but might as well report it. --Flargen 22:15, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

batteries

Given sufficient Unstable Laser Batteries, it might be possible to beat him. You certainly don't get hit after using one, but I'm not sure whether 240ish damage per round would be enough. Used 5 of them, and didn't take any damage. --MLP 13:16, 30 January 2008 (CST)

He has 100k HP. So no. You'd have to funksling it with something that can actually deal damage that isn't pathetic, like one of the damaging party favors. This still requires you to have a buffed stat of around 4000, though. --Flargen 14:15, 30 January 2008 (CST)

brick of sand

doesn't seem to work anymore. bug?

You throw the sand brick at your opponent. It connects with a resounding thwap, stunning it and dealing 72 damage. Then it crumbles, and the sand pours into its eyes. It winces

The swarm of bees envelops you, stinging viciously from all sides. Ugh! Ugh! Ouch! Ow! Argh! Argh! Argh! Ouch! Argh! Ouch! You lose 53,338 hit points.

You lose. You slink away, dejected and defeated. --Memnarch 14:51, 7 March 2008 (CST)


Tried again today. Same thing happened. Bricks of sand no longer work? --Memnarch 09:26, 8 March 2008 (CST)

I tried the Brick, too. Wanted to beat the Guy, but finish the Arena Quest at the same time. No go, got beaten up. I think I might try Floorboard Cruft, next... --MTPockets 11:58, 12 March 2008 (CDT)

Used the chloroform rag to good effect! Got the flyers off and the mirror too.. Rags are pretty cheap atm.. --Laeal 02:54, 27 June 2008 (CDT)


The brick worked perfectly for me.... --Locutus 21:42, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Worked for me.--Knobula 17:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


Yes, yes, there was a trivial update about fixing this bug on 28 March 2008. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 19:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Candyman

Seriously... the References on this guy. This is based on Candyman, from the movie of the same name. He's a guy made of bees who appears if you say his name in front of a mirror five times. --Walrusgumbo 15:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Here's what Riff said here: "Despite the obvious-seeming-ness, the GMoB is not a deliberate reference to Candyman, as I've never seen any of those movies. Summoning a monster by chanting its name in a mirror is a folklore thing that goes way back, and the GMoB himself is based on a character I ran in a superhero RPG once, who seemed to me to be appropriately ridiculous for the situation. Possibly my awareness of the existence of the movies is what made me think of him, but it's definitely not a reference in the way Insult Beer Pong is a reference to Monkey Island, or the Desktop Globe is to "Ana Ng"." --CG1:t,c,e 15:36, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Black Cat

It's entirely possible that I'm the unluckiest guy ever, but so far my Black Cat has blocked 4 out of 4 items being used against the bees. I would spade more, but I think I give up for now. Has anyone successfully beaten this monster with a black cat? For reference, I was doing the funkslinging trick to use the rock band flyers and antique hand mirror. --Santasassassin 20:49, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

  • i did it. it's painful but what a sense of achievement. keep going. at least you don't have to reacquire the combat items. --Evilkolbot 21:06, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Insta-kill with mirror- reference to anything?

Does anyone know whether the fact that the GMOB can be instantly defeated with an antique hand mirror is a reference to something? Seems a little random to include otherwise. --Andorin Kato 09:24, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

The Guy made of Bees, the fact that you speak his name into the mirror 5 times, and the antique hand mirror used to kill him are all references to the Candyman movies. --McChillin 01:38, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Then what is it a reference to? Bees killed by mirror doesn't make any sense. I've never seen these Candyman movies, and I'll believe Riff, but it's got to be a reference to something. -Jatopian 22:58, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I still find this hard to belive seeing that in the second Candyman movie it is an antique hand mirror that belonged to the plantation owners wife who got Candyman killed in the first place (by bees no less) that ends up being his undoing. Per most urban legends "Bloody Mary" is repeated 3 times while in the movies "Candyman" must be repeated 5 times. A very odd series of coincidences. --McChillin 18:49, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

  • In case you can't read, Riff said so. Probably a good enough reason. --CG1:t,c,e 23:54, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Okay, can I ask a stupid question? Is there a reason why the main page doesn't explicitly say "Despite the coincidences between the Candyman movie and this monster, Riff has stated on the forums that the similarities are just a coincidence."... (and perhaps adding on the other information above under Candyman above).--Foggy 18:53, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Beetlejuice

Beetlejuice was both a movie and a cartoon series. I think that might be useful info on the page. --Kilyle 10:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Ridiculously easy in 2010

Navel ring + a 60 lb+ potato make this fight a lot simpler. Pufferfish spines and/or hobo spells make this guy pretty trivial in aftercore--Stuart 01:37, 12 September 2010 (UTC).

Pumpkin Bomb

Does a pumpkin bomb (from the november IotM) work on this guy?--Qbr12 17:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Page is Locked

Came to add a note that he doesn't appear in the bathroom in bees hate you path, but can't, so if someone who can would edit that in. --VanDamien 20:51, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Copying

This page needs a note added:

  • This monster cannot be copied.

--Wrldwzrd89 19:06, 1 February 2012 (CET)

  • ^ THIS. Please. I just wasted an encounter with the GMoB trying to copy it. The Uncopyable page only lists the Bees Hate You path-specific encounter as being uncopyable.--Lukarnis (talk) 21:10, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Phylum

I just siphoned off a Fuzzy Tentacle from the Guy Made of Bees at the end of a BHY run, so he seems to be a Horror.--Noskilz 01:36, 9 March 2012 (CET)

  • On the off chance anyone was curious, the Having A Medicine Ball Guy Made of Bees is also a Horror (siphoned a Crazymaker - I mostly just wanted another crazymaker)--Noskilz 03:41, 9 March 2012 (CET)

Way of the Surprising Fist

I defeated him at level 13 with a Flying Fire Fist charged with about 50,000 turns of Salamanderenity. Not too difficult if you have enough MP regeneration to buff yourself frequently. --Cmlobue 10:25, 30 October 2012 (CET)

  • i understand your excitement, but this strategy is not exactly new. the path's been about for over a year now, and it was spaded to death when it was current. IIRC the only mobs that you can't do this to are her the ones that debuff you (e.g. her naughtiness) or are coded to be resistant to all damage (i.e. The Whole Kingdom and Cyrus the Virus.) --Evilkolbot 14:10, 30 October 2012 (CET)

Missing messages?

Just fought guy made of bees and got a miss message not listed on the page:

  • The bees are momentarily distracted by the bathroom's floral-print wallpaper.--Butterflygirlkmc (talk) 02:58, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
  • It attempts to punch you with a fist made of bees, but they just kind of splash on your armor. --Baltar (talk) 23:35, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Blood Bubble skill works well

Was going to add this in the notes section myself, but the page is locked.

The Blood Bubble skill that saucerors get from the Dark Gyffte skillbook works against Guy Made Of Bees, completely blocking his first attack. If you don't have ambidextrous funkslinging, you can take advantage of this to complete all advertising for the mysterious island arena on your first turn, then the antique hand mirror your second turn, to beat him and not get beat up yourself. --KelpTheGreat (talk) 02:32, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Yet Another No-Mirror Strategy

Ruthlessly Efficient + dark porquoise ring + jam band bootleg + pufferfish spine = Dead Guy Made of Bees --Baltar (talk) 23:46, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Easy to Beat

It would be nice to note on this guy's wiki page that he's actually relatively easy to beat, since he is susceptible to stuns and doesn't auto-attack or do auto damage, nor does he auto hit when attacking. Anyone with enough stuns (e.g. gas balloon) and high-percent stat reducers (e.g. crayon shavings or electronics kit) can take him at just about any level, provided you can do 100000 damage in ~20 rounds (after stunning and stat-reducers you might have ~20 rounds of actual damage). The emotion chip skill Feel Superior is perfect for this, doing 60,000 damage over 3 rounds at any level. Sacha (talk) 22:13, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

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