Talk:Killer Bee
References
- Warpeth of Zonee What the hell? -Carados 23:05, 13 Aug 2005 (Central Daylight Time)
- Same question here, actually. Does anyone know why this is part of the desc? -- Antaeus Feldspar 23:38, 1 Oct 2005 (MDT)
I suspect it's the name of the author of the haiku.
Is it 'war bee of zone e'? :P Chiangnicholas
Just a wild guess here, but I'm guessing it's a Nethack reference. In the ingame descriptions of most monsters it will list a source. (Blabla - The Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy) Can't recall any Warpeth of Zonee.
- I bet it has something to do with Nethack, but since I've never played the game, I have no basis for thinking that except for the familiar's picture, and the fact that it's hatchling is found in the Dungeons of Doom (where GOSH DARNED EVERYTHING is a reference to Nethack). I'm not sure about "Warpeth of Zonee," but phonetically, it sounds like it might be "War path of Zone E."--Knobula 03:52, 12 September 2007 (CDT)
- OK, I was listening to the Jick Show from Oct. 6. 2005, and this was explained at about 25 minutes in. "Warpeth of Zonee" was the name of the player who suggested this haiku, and Jick decided to use it, because he couldn't think of anything better. However, as of the time of that radio show, that player had already been deleted. --Prestige 05:42, 5 March 2008 (CST)
- Does the 'royal jelly' thing have a direct explanation from Nethack or could it possibly be referring to the Futurama episode #509 "The Sting"? See this wikipedia page for a summary... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sting_(Futurama) --Evilspoons 02:04, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
- Not everything is a reference, royal jelly is what worker bees make and feed to the queen. Yes it was in a Futurama episode so was honey, but if something mentions either in passing it doesn't immediatly become a futurama reference. --Practitioner of Saucy Arts 02:11, 10 July 2006 (CDT)
- In this case though, given the muscle gain from the royal jelly, I'd say they are referring to Nethack's royal jelly specifically, which increases your strength stat when you eat it. --Nyren 02:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
X Muscle?
How high does this go? Would it ever be worth ascending with a killer bee if you were going for a muscle class?
Also is the X muscle gain affected by the moon phases on muscle stat days?--Practitioner of Saucy Arts 14:45, 13 February 2006 (Central Standard Time)
- I don't think it would be worth it since it doesn't give the muscle every combat adventure. Since the X muscle gain is part of the regular muscle gain for combat, I would assume it's affected by stat days.--DarkerLine 23:37, 16 June 2006 (CDT)
Somebody want to add a "needs expansion" thingy to this about muscle gains? X muscle doesn't really say a lot, and I don't know how to add those banner things.--Green9090 04:13, 19 February 2007 (CST)
- Added the tag, and am doing a very shallow spade. So far: 1 point only seen from 1-4lb, 1-2 from 5-8lb, first 3 point at 9lb. Jumping ahead with a brass stinger, 5 points is possible at 17lb. The floor seems to always be 1, so I'd guess the muscle gain is something like 1-weight/4. --Starwed 04:36, 19 February 2007 (CST)
- At 25lbs, a 7pt muscle gain is possible. This seems to confirm that the maximum is weight/4 rounded up, although whether the maximum is equally likely or whether it depends on the remainder of weight/4 I couldn't say. --Starwed 07:16, 22 February 2007 (CST)
- Activation stats: 31/82 combats=38% --Starwed 04:11, 23 February 2007 (CST)
- And 32/100, for a total of 63/182=34.6%. So probably simply 1/3 combats, backing up some data Hellion mentioned in the HCO forums. --Starwed 13:52, 26 February 2007 (CST)
Damage?
Damage for a 25lb bee seems to be from 1-12. Thus, I surmise that the formula is ~1-weight/2. --Starwed 07:11, 22 February 2007 (CST)
- Activation stats: 20/80 rounds of combat=25%. --Starwed 04:12, 23 February 2007 (CST)
- That damage formula NEEDS correction. With the way it's written now, it looks like the damage formula is 1 minus (weight/2). That confused me for quite a while until I almost posted a message saying that for a Killer Bee of 25 lbs. (as listed), damage would be 1-(25/2), which equals -11.5 damage to opponent (which would actually heal your opponent)... The damage formula should be written as "1 to X/2, where X=weight." In my opinion, the way I have written it is much more clear.--Knobula 03:52, 12 September 2007 (CDT)
