Talk:Shady pirate

Statistics

Era	Date	Encountered	barrrnacle	acoustic guitarrr	safarrri hat	Information	Source
Era 1	21-Jan-06	329	43	58	48	Item Drop Bonus: +40%	Yiab
	21-Jan-06	716	75	82	91	Item Drop Bonus: +20%	Yiab

Guitars?

I don't know if it's just me, but I've been noticing the acoustic guitar hardly drops at all. I spent 100+ turns trying for it, and I ended up with 2 barnacles and 3 safari hats, but no guitars. I've only noticed it since NS13; think maybe Jick changed the drop rates? --Asinine 08:15, 6 October 2007 (CDT)

• I doubt it has changed. 100+ turns means you probably encountered the shady pirate about 10 times. Given the drop rate on the page, about 1 person in 3 will fight 10 shady pirates in a row without getting any guitars. About 1 person in 10 will still have no guitar after spending twice as long. --TheArchivist 08:24, 6 October 2007 (CDT)

• What is this now, almost 300+ turns with a ~20 fairy, rabbit's foot, and miner's helmet? I agree with Asinine, I think the drop rates are different now. That or the RNG just hates us all. Or both. --Santasassassin 14:07, 7 October 2007 (CDT)

• • 4 days, 350 adventures since I started, with a level 26 fairy and +18% item drops, with 8 barrrnacles and a crapload of rum, I finally got it. That took much too long. And I'm pretty sure the drop rates are different. --Santasassassin 23:39, 7 October 2007 (CDT)
    • One anecdotal piece of evidence does not mean the drop has changed. It's probability, folks - sometimes people will get screwed. --TheArchivist 07:47, 8 October 2007 (CDT)

I don't wanna make any statements about changing item drop rates, I'm just posting info. I have spent over 150 adventures in the cove, just trying to get the guitar for the stone mariachis (not to mention the adventures I spent in the area to get the snakehead bracelet). I have a +68% item drop, and a 25 lb baby gravy fairy (which I think works out to 126.35% cumulatively); so if I remember how item drops work, and the acoustic guitarrr is a 10% item drop, then I should (probabilistically) have obtained the guitarrr from fighting 4 shady pirates, but I'm pretty sure that I've fought at least 15. Tomorrow I'll use an odor extractor; hopefully that'll get me my guitarrr.--Knobula 15:52, 5 January 2008 (CST)

• Okay, I just looked up the item drop formula, and did some math, and, if I'm right, my +126.35% item drop, only boosts the acoustic guitarrr drop to about 13.37%. So, not as good as I previously thought, but I'm still pretty unlucky. God dang RNG!--Knobula 16:05, 5 January 2008 (CST)
  • Used an odor extractor, had the same +item drop%, I must have encountered 20 shady pirates, still no guitarrr. I'm starting to think the item drop percentage has changed.--Knobula 23:50, 5 January 2008 (CST)
    • I think that Jick made it so that the guitar doesn't drop from this pirate anymore, If i remember it comes from the belowdecks area. --Chunky_boo 00:06, 6 January 2008 (CST)
      • I just spent another full day (48 adventures) here, with the same +item drop%; encountered 6 shady pirates. Still no goddamn guitar. I'm getting REALLY pissed off, because the guitarrr drop has been holding me back from ascending for at least 4 days. Probably 5 or 6. Tomorrow I'll try obtaining it from the belowdecks; but that will still be a huge pain in the ass, because I haven't spent any adventures in the pirates cove (disguised). I think maybe Jick changed it so that the guitarrr only drops from the shady pirate BEFORE you finish the level 12 quest; and it's only available from the belowdecks, post-war.--Knobula 01:04, 7 January 2008 (CST)
• um, sitars work, too, but you've finished the war. and what about clovers? HCO BM lead-in? painful. --Evilkolbot 01:47, 7 January 2008 (CST)
  • I'm not going for Bad Moon, so what about clovers? Can I get some sort of guitar as a clover drop??--Knobula 22:20, 7 January 2008 (CST)
    • I finally got my guitarrr. I had to do the entire caronch quest, but it only took me 88 adventures, as opposed to the 200+ that I spent trying to get it in the pirate's cove undisguised. At this point, I would like to revise my previous theory that the acoustic guitarrr only drops from the belowdecks post-war; this may be the case; but lately I've been thinking that the acoustic guitarrr only ever drops from the belowdecks, since the recent changes to the pirate's cove. If anyone has received it as a drop from the pirate's cove pre-war, (since the recent change) this would obviously disprove my theory, and I would love to know.--Knobula 22:51, 8 January 2008 (CST)