Talk:The Placebo Defect
HP/MP Loss
I'd guess the HP/MP loss is 75% of your maximum. I was going to mark my maxima, but forgot until several adventures later. I lost ~77% and ~76% of HP and MP, respectively. --RandomPrecision 02:03, 3 August 2007 (CDT)
I lost 37 and 31, max was 45 and 41 (Disco Bandit). -odinblade
Huh. The 31/41 works perfectly, but 37 is more than 75% of 45. 75% with some variance then? I'd kind of like another datum to make sure it's roughly 75%, and not significantly more random. --RandomPrecision 02:35, 2 September 2007 (CDT)
I lost 15/19. HP, 21/27 MP. So, 75%. Also got the adventure without any kind of requirements being met. --TechSmurf 23:38, 7 September 2007 (CDT)
Level 8 turtle tamer - I was at 144/144 and 21/40 and lost 131 hp and 40 mp. I do not believe that it is a consistent percentage. --Creepingcrud 09:58, 12 October 2007 (CDT)
Lost 36/52 HP, 12, 17 MP. Again, got this before I had done anything else in the Manor. --TechSmurf 19:43, 13 October 2007 (CDT)
Level 14 Seal Clubber; 463hp and 145mp, I lost 431hp and 132mp. 93% and 91% respectively. --Tcjellis 04:32, 16 October 2007 (CDT)
L12 TT, 200/240 hp lost, 71/103 MP lost. (MP reduced to 0). --Starwed 14:12, 23 October 2007 (CDT)
L9 Sauceror with 52 muscle base, 77 myst base. Buffing spray and Saucemastery running so 52HP, 103MP: You lose 52 hit points. You lose 106 Mana Points.--Darkness 02:37, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
L7 DB, Lost 30/54 HP and 40/43 HP. That's not 75-75 at all, so either there's a huge (~25%) variance or something else is going on. --Lordebon 16:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
L9 DB, lost 49/62 HP and 60/66 MP (though my current MP was much less, it's more likely to be based off of max). 79% and 91%. --Terion 16:38, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
L11 DB, lost 47/94 HP and 78/82 MP. I was only buffed with Disco State of Mind but I had +20 Monster Level. --Wyscor 20:32, 28 March 2009 (GMT)
L9 DB, 72/111 HP, 64/85 MP. Only Disco State of Mind and Missing Kidney. Muscle/moxie +12, myst +14, from equipment (bases 76, 71, 95). The HP almost works out if you consider the +20 HP drum I had equipped. --Pastangum 20:45, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
L13 P, I lost 150/164 HP and 188/279 MP. Only Chapped Legs and Missing Kidney. --Foman38 07:09, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
L8 DB, lost 50/50 HP and 35/? MP (Beaten Up now, wasn't paying attention to max MP). Had Missing Kidney and in kittycore.--Sentrion 06:06, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
| Name | Lvl | Class | HP lost | HP | MP lost | MP | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| odinblade | ? | DB | 37 | 35 | 31 | 41 | |
| TechSmurf | ? | ? | 15 | 19 | 21 | 27 | Also got the adventure without any kind of requirements being met. |
| Creepingcrud | 8 | TT | 131 | 144 | 40 | 40 | I was at 144/144 and 21/40 and lost 131 hp and 40 mp. I do not believe that it is a consistent percentage. |
| TechSmurf | ? | ? | 36 | 52 | 12 | 17 | Again, got this before I had done anything else in the Manor. |
| Tcjellis | 14 | Seal Clubber | 431 | 463 | 132 | 145 | 93% and 91% respectively. |
| Starwed | 12 | TT | 200 | 240 | 71 | 103 | (MP reduced to 0). |
| Darkness | 9 | Saucerorr | 52 | 52 | 103 | 106 | 52 muscle base, 77 myst base. Buffing spray and Saucemastery running so 52HP, 103MP: You lose 52 hit points. You lose 106 Mana Points. |
| Lordebon | 7 | DB | 30 | 54 | 40 | 43 | That's not 75-75 at all, so either there's a huge (~25%) variance or something else is going on. |
| Terion | 9 | DB | 49 | 62 | 60 | 66 | Though my current MP was much less, it's more likely to be based off of max). 79% and 91%. |
| Wyscor | 11 | DB | 47 | 94 | 78 | 82 | I was only buffed with Disco State of Mind but I had +20 Monster Level. |
| Pastangum | 9 | DB | 72 | 111 | 64 | 85 MP | Only Disco State of Mind and Missing Kidney. Muscle/moxie +12, myst +14, from equipment (bases 76, 71, 95). The HP almost works out if you consider the +20 HP drum I had equipped. |
| Diesel | 12 | AT | 129 | 152 | 72 | 93 | +8 ml |
| LittleBeast | 7 | SC | 121 | 126 | 32 | 37 | Missing Kidney. I would guess variance is 75-100% of max. |
| Foman38 | 13 | P | 150 | 164 | 188 | 279 | Missing Kidney and Chapped Legs |
| Andorin Kato | 8 | TT | 79 | 156 | 28 | 43 | Freaked Out, Patience of the Tortoise, and a bit of DA/DR from turtlemail equipment and a peace sign necklace. But yeah, ah, I didn't lose 75% HP. |
| Nobody22 | 13 | DB | 215 | 182 | 102 | 116 | Got 3t of Beaten up! |
| Kyrbis | 8 | SC | 123 | 128 | 21 | 41 | Got Beaten Up, not even close to 75% in either HP or MP |
| Raijinili | 10 | SC | 173 | 177 | 46 | 72 | Wasn't beaten up. |
Superlikely conditions?
My impression is that this adventure is only possible after unlocking the Gallery. At the end of a run, I spent several dozen potato-less adventures in the Conservatory with the Gallery locked; once it was unlocked, I found a sprout 2 adventures later.--Cysteine 11:56, 8 November 2007 (CST)
I'm finding the same thing - no drop without the gallery key. I'd like to encourage others to test and add data, especially if anyone has a counterexample. --YankaTexee 16:07, 17 January 2008 (CST)
I got this adventure immediately after finding the Gallery Key. Also, I am to assume this adventure's primary reason for existence is so that one does not need to potentially farm the Daily Dungeon for weeks on end in the hopes of a sprout? --jupider 15:13, 9 March 2008 (CDT)
I got this adventure last run and I didn't have the gallery key. That can't be the trigger.--Pepeson 13:35, 18 April 2008 (CDT)
I just got this adventure at level 4 right after opening the manor. It is not related to the gallery at all. The only trigger seems to be opening the area. --Darkwolf 12:20, 20 April 2008 (CDT)
I just got it at level 9, and I didn't even read the "Fall" book to unlock the Polo/gallery key adventure. Agreed that it seems to be just getting access to the manor. --Terion 16:38, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
lost 385/420 hp, 140/145 mp--Alabit (talk) 21:23, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
