Talk:Tuesday

Non-Tuesday Updates

A change was recently reverted for describing an update that didn't occur on a Tuesday. Should this page be for all updates, or only ones on the second diurnal passage through a standard Western workweek? Or should the page perhaps be renamed? See the discussion page if you have an opinion.--DirkDiggler 20:58, 7 September 2006 (CDT)

Non-Tuesday updates are already stored here... --Quietust 21:28, 7 September 2006 (CDT)

If that's going to be the official policy, please remove this line from the introduction: "The purpose of this page is to provide quick documentation of the latest changes to the Kingdom." Personally, I'd vote for mentioning all updates to the gameplay (as opposed to chat or interface improvements). It's more useful, and isn't confusing if the day they occur on is marked, --Starwed 13:35, 21 September 2006 (CDT)

Yes, one of my edits to this page was reverted quite recently because I read that "The purpose of this page is to provide quick documentation of the latest changes to the Kingdom." thing... --'Ivan 22:19, 26 October 2006 (CDT)

I agree that although the page is labelled "Tuesday", and mainly includes changes made on Tuesdays, it would be far more useful as a descriptive repository of new content rollouts - as compared to the History of Loathing article, which is more or less just a text-dump of the announcements and trivial announcements. --Id the Mildly Confused 01:58, 7 December 2006 (CST)

Proposed Update to the "Purpose Statement" Of This Page

In light of the the discussion above re: Tue. vs. Non-Tuesday updates... and especially how this page becomes more useful if we expand its purpose slightly to include significant gameplay updates even if they don't happen on a Tuesday... Perhaps we should edit the "purpose statement". It currently reads:

    The purpose of this page is to provide quick documentation of the latest "Tuesday Updates" to
    the Kingdom.

Perhaps we could change this to just

    "...quick documentation of the latest "Updates" to the Kingdom.  These usually happen on a
    Tuesday (hence the name of this page), unless Jick is too hungover, in which case they happen on a
    Wednesday."

Or something along those lines. I'm sure a better writer can improve on the wording/humor value. I think a change in this direction would improve the value of the page and clarify its intent. What do others think? --ThunderTurtle 08:49, 16 March 2007 (CDT)

• You would probably be interested in this discussion. There may a better place to bring this up on (as well as read the reasons as for why some feel this should be exclusive to Tuesday updates). --TheDotGamer 10:16, 16 March 2007 (CDT)

Thanks for the link TheDotGamer. I checked it out and yes... that was interesting. I will chime in over there also. And hopefully some consensus will develop one way of the other. --ThunderTurtle 00:09, 17 March 2007 (CDT)

8/6/06 Update

• The adventure and monster queues are now 5 units long rather than 3. The adventures/monsters that will be encountered at a location are determined ahead of time. Also, no repetition of adventures is allowed within these adventures. This means that there will now be slightly less clustering of adventures.

8/15/06 Update

Well ready your buzzers, it appears the first new tuesday content has already hit as the Meatsmith's shop is now sorted into three categories.--Practitioner of Saucy Arts 01:38, 15 August 2006 (CDT)

• Err, I noticed that at least a few days ago. It probably went in last Tuesday when everything else was ordered alphabetically... --Ricket 01:56, 15 August 2006 (CDT)
  • Well I guess I'm just slow, that or I only craft my furry pants at the end of runs :).Anyhow its the talk page so no harm no foul, eh.--Practitioner of Saucy Arts 11:02, 15 August 2006 (CDT)
    • Hey, if someone makes the page for the skull, I can fill it out. I've got the skull and have been adventuring with it. However, I don't know how to get the image for it.--Linkman95 19:45, 15 August 2006 (CDT)

8/23/06 Update

Is the clover adventure on Guano Junction dependent on whether you have completed the quest? --Hurax 04:35, 23 August 2006 (CDT)

• Changed the date header so as not to horribly confuse people as you copy and psted the 8/15/06 again. While I haven't tested it at all nor seen either in game because im lazy, in hardcore, and the hermit has no bananas er... clovers, I'd suspect that it is dependent upon whether you have knocked down the walls with the biscuits (again this is little more than a competent guess, and only put here cause I thought I'd sign off on correcting the date).--Practitioner of Saucy Arts 13:38, 23 August 2006 (CDT)

8/29/06 Update

Time for someone with authority enough to edit the front page to tag this back up there again, the Tuesday content hit a touch earlier than normal this week.--Practitioner of Saucy Arts 23:38, 29 August 2006 (CDT)

• I *think* it will automatically kick in when wednesday starts on the wiki (2 am eastern). --JRSiebz (☎|§|‡) 23:45, 29 August 2006 (CDT)

No Spoilers

Okay, first of all, doesn't it just figure that the ONE time I would manage to get information about a new feature that they would decide to screw with me and get rid of that new post that I made? Just my luck. Second of all, I know that they don't want people to leak the new stuff, but come ON! THIS IS A SPOILER SITE. We are SUPPOSED to spoil crap. And it's not like they are thrilled about all the spoilers we post about the other content. I mean, seriously, I think they only meant in chat and the forums. You know, the places under their own jurisdiction. Well, whatever. I think it's ridiculous, and you can all delete this, or yell at me for flaming or something, I just needed to get all this off my chest, you know.

--PhantomTrogdor 00:00, 20 September 2006 (CDT)

• It's gone! I just spoiled half of the adventures...go revel in your glee...--SomeStranger ^(t|c) 00:01, 20 September 2006 (CDT)

I'm currently adventuring in the Haunted Conservatory, and collecting Piles of Dusty Animal Bones. When used, they seem to produce a randomly numbered vertabrae or caudal vertabrae. (Caudal = from the tail.) Could these be the building blocks to the familiar whose equipment was accidentally rolled out early? --Emtu 00:04, 20 September 2006 (CDT)

• Oh, spoke too soon. I just got a left clavicle from one. --Emtu 00:05, 20 September 2006 (CDT)

You're right, PhantomTrogdor. People who don't want spoilers don't need to look at the KolWiki. --Jubbers 00:10, 20 September 2006 (CTD)

9/26/06 Update

I'm pretty sure the familiar kills thing was just a regular update, and the fortune cookies are the Tuesday update... Considering they happened on Tuesday. And are more content-oriented, as Tuesdays have been. --Blahquabats 01:24, 27 September 2006 (CDT)

Confirmed. Xenophobe said, "This is not the Tuesday update. It's still Monday here... :)" in this post. By the way, the Toot Oriole now gives a fortune cookie in the tutorial. --Akravator 02:18, 27 September 2006 (CDT)

I think it's best for this page to contain all updates of interest, regardless of whether they happen on a Tuesday or not. Having one page to check is nice and easy, no need to complicate things. (If it makes you feel better, think of Tuesday as a metaphor. :P) --Starwed 08:05, 27 September 2006 (CDT)

2/13/07 Update

Is this yet documented anywhere? It says that this occurred but the actual change is not listed on the Disco Bandit page or on any of the involved skills. --Killerrabbit 18:27, 13 February 2007 (CST)

It's now got it's own (crappy) page at Disco combos

3/6/07 Update

A list of the new effects and attacks could be placed somewhere else. Recommend the actual info be moved to a new page, as this will soon clutter up the Tuesday page. --Terry 02:17, 9 March 2007 (CST)

• I disagree that they should be moved to a new page, but I agree that there should probably be a page with special monster actions including those introduced with this update, previous updates, and future updates. You may be interested in weighing in on the discussion at Discussion#Special monster actions. Anyway, my reason for not just moving them from this page is that so there is more of a "pure" historical archive of exactly what was added on this update, not special monster actions from the past or from the future. Besides, it's very unlikely that it will clutter this page, more than say, August 15, 2006. For that update, it's true that the Meatsmithing page covers all the content listed there, but it also lists all the changes introduced before and after the update too. Typically, an entry isn't "expanded" on this page (such as the February 27, 2007 Traveling Trader update) if a completely new mechanic was introduced, in that case the banana, and everything related to the update can be seen on that page, and it's all new. In the case with this weeks update there already existed some, although admittedly not too many, special monster actions. --TheDotGamer 08:02, 9 March 2007 (CST)
• True, but a large number of these new effects are being added *after* Tuesday, and more are likely to be continually added. Do we simply let the list keep going, or do we simply say 'On this day, a bunch of new effects and creature actions were added, and lots more followed in their wake.', cite the ones that were added on Tuesday, and just let the new ones pop up in their respective creature/effect pages? --Terry 18:43, 9 March 2007 (CST)
• Yeah, I thought about that too, although I doubt that they will still continue to be added after the next Tuesday update. I would suggest that anything added in the week after (up to the next Tuesday) should probably be included as it's introduction into the game is certainly because of the most recent Tuesday update. I don't know where a good place to draw the line is, though. For example, the enchantment upgrade of the gnatwing earring almost certainly came as a result of the February 20, 2007 update, although it either wasn't noted or noticed until yesterday. --TheDotGamer 09:43, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
• Since the dev team has officially stated that this weeks Tuesday update is a continuation of last weeks Tuesday update, I see no reason to stop listing the new effects as I stated above. --TheDotGamer 10:16, 16 March 2007 (CDT)

Archiving

Should the Tuesday updates start getting split up by year? That page is getting mighty long, just look at the toc. perhaps a page calledTuesday_2006 Tuesday_2006 or something like that? --Plater 06:01, 14 March 2007 (CDT)

• I'm thinking that an archive would probably be a good idea for this page, although it should probably wait until we've settled more on what qualifies for content on this page. --TheDotGamer 10:16, 16 March 2007 (CDT)

Trivial Update

Why should we put trivial update here when all the other tuesday update are Major annoncement !? --Thomadaneau 22:28, 14 March 2007 (CDT)

• I don't think we should. Furthermore, neither of the listed Tuesday updates are remotely connected to the fact that it's Tuesday. Riff said it was just more monster effects. Can we delete the 13th and 14th. --Worddoc 01:24, 15 March 2007 (CDT)
  • Exactly. If the Tuesday update is indeed a trivial announcement then there's no reason not to include it. Although almost all major game content comes in the form of announcements, there are times when dev chooses to list them in the trivial updates (i.e. ascension... although that had a countdown in the announcements). --TheDotGamer 10:16, 16 March 2007 (CDT)

4/10/07 Update

• We finally have a recipe for the enormous belt buckle. I smithed the white snakeskin with the enormous belt buckel on a whim. Luckily, I got something. The white belt gives +3 muscle and +3 melee. I'm putting it here because I don't know how to create an item page.--Aznpride05 19:33, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
• It's actually my guess that the white whip accredited to the 4/10 update really goes with the 4/3 update, seeing as the white belt was introduced then, and all the other things introduced on 4/10 have to do with the two new skins. Probably nobody figured out the white whip's recipe until the update after. Makes sense, amirite? --Jimfromtx 01:34, 11 April 2007 (CDT)

June 6th 2007 Update

• Tomorrow in KOL will be Bor 4th. Bor is the july equiv month. I am thinking some sort of independncey-day type thing? I am certainly blowing my fingers off with firecrackers regardless --Plater 17:06, 6 June 2007 (CDT)
• I am thinking that Jarlsberg may finally get his own holiday. Possibly we are both right. --Killerrabbit 20:26, 6 June 2007 (CDT)

• Yep, it's Dependence Day!!! You can buy all sorts of dangerous goodies from the market. Maybe even more than missing fingers o_O --Jimfromtx 22:56, 6 June 2007 (CDT)

August 21, 2007

• although it's tuesday, this doesn't look like a tuesday update to me. it just an update that happened on a tuesday. --Evilkolbot 06:07, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
  • Not only that, but the update actually happened on Monday, August 20. --Prestige 06:40, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

Time to suppress TOC?

This page seems to be overrun with the table of contents these days.... I'd suggest we either pare down the older updates, or suppress the TOC, keeping the new stuff towards the top of the page. Anyone have any opinions on the matter? --jin 21:08, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

• Personally, I'm always using the table of contents on this page. Of course that means I have to remember the general time period that the update I'm looking for occurred, but that's not much of a problem. Also, it may be worth it just to archive or seperate updates based on years, as stated above. --TheDotGamer 00:41, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
• I was actually thinking about this earlier today... Perhaps only have updates for, say, the past month directly on the page, and archive the rest in groups of three months. About thirteen entries per archive. Seems like a good balance between too short and unwieldy. --TechSmurf 17:18, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
• I like how it is done now! :D --MagiNinjA (#1036193) _(t|c) 22:55, 26 April 2007 (CDT)
• I would like to suggest that we seperate it into years and then into quarters (ie: Spring:2006) that was it's easier to navigaste by all...no I have no idea how to do this, I'm just the Idea guy :) --Da'MonkeyMan 23:02, 7 May 2007 (CDT)

We have more then a year now, I think it's time to seperate by year. Tuesday_2006 for may06-dec06(inclusive) and we keep everything on Tuesday until about mayish of 08 when jan06-dec06(inclusive) gets moved to Tuesday_2007...either that or we're always on a Tuesday_(Year) page and the Tuesday page will Transfer to the correct year based on current date (or something) --Plater 07:05, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

Relevancy of this Page

On August 9th, Jick said on-air that they were trying to stray away from rolling out new content on a scheduled basis. I think it might be time to retire this page and/or merge it with the appropriate History of Loathing (2006) or History of Loathing (2007) pages (if the information isn't already included on there). It doesn't really make sense to keep beating Tuesdays over the head if the chances of something regularly happening isn't going to happen. --Thoughtstipated 16:42, 29 August 2007 (CDT)

Should we start adding updates?

Well sould we? Its been a half a year already and there has been lots of updates.--Tomjohn242 12:39, 19 January 2008 (CST)

They weren't the consistent Tuesday updates though. We already have History of Loathing for non-Tuesday ones.--Toffile 12:44, 19 January 2008 (CST)

• There haven't been Tuesday updates. There have been updates, and there have been updates on Tuesday, but Tuesday updates were little bursts of content added specially for Tuesdays. Are you thinking of the History of Loathing pages? --TechSmurf 12:49, 19 January 2008 (CDT)

As mentioned elsewhere, the Tuesday page and the History page served very different functions. One is simply a log of all announcements, the other a list of game changes with details. And as I'm sure I said above somewhere, I'm an advocate of making Tuesday simply a metaphor, and updating this page with anything interesting. This doesn't seem to be a consensus position, though.  :) --Starwed 18:45, 19 January 2008 (CST)

Yeah, I think that game updates are starting to occur, if not on Tuesdays, then at least on a regular, roughly weekly basis again. And hell, this week's update did occur on a Tuesday, and even in the classic "a few hours before rollover" sense that "Tuesday" updates used to signify. I think it's fair to somehow do major updates in a way that Tuesday updates used to be, at least in the sense of giving quick links to any new adventures, items, or other relevant new things that came out of that update.--Jett 07:33, 26 March 2008 (CDT)

• So, whats the status of Tuesdays? From what I gather, they're not all that special nowadays.. (i.e. not sidebar-worthy right?)--Dehstil (t|c) 00:22, 16 May 2008 (CDT)
• Hmm, I wonder if Tuesday updates are coming back. Or perhaps they're just reminiscing with the latest update. I guess we'll find out next Tuesday for sure. It's probably not worth adding today's update to this page unless they consistently release official "Tuesday" updates again. --TheDotGamer 21:19, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Are Tuesday updates back?

Since April, Jick has been updating near every Tuesday and making special note of the day of the week. So I'm wondering, are Tuesday updates "back"? Can we update the page again? Or should we wait and see if it continues? Drsonic1 (talk) 23:42, 3 June 2015 (UTC)