Talk:Using the Force

So we basically have Banish, Olfaction, Yellow-ray (w/o ELY)? --Fredg1 (talk) 20:15, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

• 30 turn banish, 3 monster insta-copy, and forced drop that's stronger than yellow ray. I tried YRing the "painting of [ancestor]" and never got "an ancient oil painting of you". I also tried using Feel Envious on this monster and never got the item to drop. Using the force and telling them to drop their stuff, it always drops that and everything else. It seems that only conditional drops are immune to "You will drop all of your things and walk away". --Rick Tyger (talk) 23:03, 16 August 2021 (UTC)