Talk:Bees Hate You/Strategy

A few pointers form my run: I did a softcore BHY run as DB, I used grass whistle until I could use the 7-inch discus. Also, I'm fairly I could use the chaos butterfly during the Farm sidequest, since I don't remember it taking longer than the other times I used the shortcut. Anyway, it wasn't too hard due to having permed Tongue of the Walrus and Entangling Noodles, and having a Starfish-type familiar. --Rikastley 08:15, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

• You're mistaken about the butterfly.--Erich 11:54, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

It should be mentioned for the Lv12 quest that the outfit is only necessary for starting/fighting/ending the war, the Nun sidequest, and turning in quests. This should hopefully save people some headache. --Doomsday Forte 09:52, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

It's worth noting that it is MONUMENTALLY easier to do beecore as a Myst class. Much cheaper MP, and spells help tremendously against bees. Anyone doing a non-Myst class should pick a MP-restoring astral item (i.e. chapeau, ring, or shorts) or have a MP-restoring familiar (i.e. starfish or ghuol whelp-type), or else prepare for a long haul with few buffs and very little meat until they finally unlock the Black Market and/or the Myst store as an AT.--Jett 15:37, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

• Gah. I forgot to mention, but this obviously applies mostly to HC runs. SC players with good toys can work around the lack of seltzer much more easily.--Jett 15:42, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Meat engines are dropped by Keg Tank so Bitchin Meat Car, Meat Maid,et al. can be made in late game. Not necessarily helpful but there you go --Moraglar Khilen 16:23, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, we should totally mention that you can get a meatcar for shore access during the level 12 quest on the island that in order to get to requires shore access. Meat maid is irrelevant by level 12.--Toffile 17:21, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Can the Keg Tank be faxed? --Turing 17:34, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
    • I bet so, but don't see it listed on the faxbot page, so it wouldn't be trivial. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 20:13, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
      • It's also a 5% drop, so there's basically zero chance you'd actually get it to drop, even if the monster can be copied. --Flargen 20:59, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
        • I actually think there's about a 5% chance that it would drop. Lack of yellow ray or pumpkin bombs make the scenario of it being killable early + dropping unlikely though.--Toffile 21:17, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

It's just a flesh wound

You can use a Disco Banjo in a DB run. Come on, it's just 10% of your health. Ideally, moxie classes shouldn't even be getting hit. Even more ideally, Entangling Noodles and any healing skill. I find an unfair tilt against relying on B equipment. --Raijinili 02:08, 3 June 2011 (UTC)