Talk:And to All a Good Night
Appears to be approximately 1 item for every 20 recitations of the Spirit of Crimbo. I recited it a total of 142 times, both elves and Crimbomination, and was offered 7 toys. --Pastangum 23:09, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Nope. It appears to be something else entirely. Logarithmic; maybe some items count as multiple grabs, some might count as only partial grabs. WhiskeyJack, who led the leaderboard with 5000 bits, said in the forums:
The penguin said approximately 750 items. I got 851 random Crimbo goodies from years past.
And some of the people trailing him on the leaderboard got similarly numbers that are noticeably smaller then the number of bits they expurgated. --Flargen 23:12, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Unfortunately I did not keep track of how many adventures I spent; I know it was a bit over 1000. I was told to grab 154 items, and actually grabbed 171 items. To be precise:
You acquire 6 doll houses You acquire 4 dollhives You acquire 14 kites You acquire 21 tree-eating kites You acquire 10 balls You acquire 11 fancy dress balls You acquire 12 mylar scout drones You acquire 13 stuffed alien blobs You acquire 3 stuffed gray blobs You acquire 2 razor-tipped yo-yo-yo You acquire 2 vampire ducks-on-strings You acquire an item: monomolecular yo-yo You acquire 9 possessed tops You acquire 2 MagiMechTech NanoMechaMech You acquire an item: duck-on-a-string You acquire 5 gyroscopes You acquire 15 stuffed doppelshifters You acquire 17 tops You acquire 12 buckyballs You acquire an item: toy maglev monorail You acquire an item: toy crazy train You acquire 3 toy mercenaries You acquire an item: roboduck-on-a-string You acquire 2 toy deathbots You acquire 2 toy trains You acquire an item: toy space helmet
--Keith 02:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I got 26 total items from my grab. Seems to be a random assortment of stuff from the dusty and sturdy crimbo crates. More specifically for me:
You acquire an item: doll house You acquire 4 fancy dress balls You acquire an item: toy ray gun You acquire an item: duck-on-a-string You acquire an item: gyroscope You acquire 4 stuffed alien blobs You acquire 2 buckyballs You acquire an item: ball You acquire an item: toy mercenary You acquire an item: top You acquire 5 possessed tops You acquire 3 kites You acquire an item: stuffed doppelshifter
--Flargen 22:31, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
I got 11 items. In case it matters, I read The Spirit of Crimbo to the Crimbomination maybe 40 times:
You reach into the crate and pull out some goodies at random: You acquire 2 kites You acquire 5 possessed tops You acquire an item: top You acquire 3 stuffed gray blobs
--thisisnotatest 22:35, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Edit: in the text, the penguin told me to grab about 10 items. --thisisnotatest
I got something entirely different when I tried this adventure... because I didn't fight the Crimbomination at all. Stupid me, didn't think to grab the text and post it here... because I now get this: "You should probably leave the penguins alone to work on next year's Crimbo. They seem kind of... irritable lately." Wrldwzrd89 22:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- I'm guessing how many thingies you get is based on how many times you Spirited the Crimbomination; I spent about 2-3 adventures per day reading to the thing, and I got "approximately 3 items", which turned out to be 2 mylar scout drones and 2 buckyballs. -Johnny Treehugger 22:37, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Text for not helping against the crimbomination at all:
As you walk toward the crate, you find your way once again blocked by Cappuccino Decaffa. You brace yourself for yet another round of tedious exposition. Decaffa cocks his head and looks at you, tapping his foot impatiently. He's holding a cell phone in one flipper, and looks eager to get back to the conversation you've interrupted.
"Look," he says, "I won't say that it isn't good to see you, because I can't imagine you wouldn't be insulted by that. And it certainly would not be accurate to say that Don Crimbo, monarch of Crimbo, is not grateful for the assistance you provided this holiday season. In fact, I wouldn't venture to say that it isn't not untrue that --"
"Easy with the double negatives," you interrupt. "You'd need a Saint Bernard and a flask of whiskey to get out of your last sentence alive. I just came to help take down the Crimbomination. After careful cryptographic analysis of the Spirit of Crimbo text, I believe the only way to defeat it is with a combination of loose teeth and really, really sticky spider webs. I mean, it couldn't be as easy as just reciting the Spirit of Crimbo at it, right? Anyway, where'd the Crimbomination go?"
Decaffa puts his cell phone down and picks up his lead pipe. "You adventurers defeated it. It turned back into a regular elf and went back to the elven barracks with the other elves."
"But it was huge -- it had to be more than just one elf! And hey, what's in that giant crate behind you?"
Decaffa steps forward, tapping your knee lightly with his lead pipe. "That is not of concern to you. As I was trying to say, Don Crimbo is extremely grateful for your help, and congratulates you on defeating the menace known as the Crimbomination. It is now time for Crimbo Town to fade back into the mists, so we can prepare next Crimbo, which we assure you will be a wondrous celebration of merriment and joy. Further curiosity on your part about the creature you defeated would be . . . unwise."
"But -- but --" you stammer. "The time I wasted -- the magic I spent on this -- it can't end like this! It just can't!"
"Hold on a minute," Decaffa says, eyeing you suspiciously. He picks up his cell phone and makes a call. You hear him mutter your name into the phone, then he nods his head and snaps the phone shut. "I thought so. In your haste to take credit for other peoples' efforts, you forgot that the Don is now the monarch of Crimbo, and as such has access to the records of all adventurers' deeds and misdeeds, so that he may fill out his 'naughty' and 'nice' lists. Don Crimbo informs me that not only did you not spend any time or any magic fighting the Crimbomination, but that he is most displeased with you wasting his time in this fashion. I would suggest you vacate the premises before you suffer an unfortunate accident."
<button reading "Take your leave"> -- --Depravity 22:50, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Edited to remove the giant scroll. --TechSmurf 03:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Got the following 57 items on my multi I spent the most time Crimbominating with. I was told to pick out approximately 49 items.
You acquire 2 doll houses You acquire an item: dollhive You acquire an item: duck-on-a-string You acquire 10 gyroscopes You acquire 2 possessed tops You acquire 5 stuffed alien blobs You acquire 4 stuffed gray blobs You acquire 6 stuffed doppelshifters You acquire an item: toy mercenary You acquire 7 fancy dress balls You acquire 5 kites You acquire 4 tree-eating kites You acquire an item: toy space helmet You acquire an item: yo-yo You acquire an item: razor-tipped yo-yo You acquire an item: toy deathbot You acquire an item: monomolecular yo-yo You acquire 4 balls
--Flargen 22:52, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
640 bits expurgated, told to grab about 96 items, actually received 113 (including 5 dollhives). --Jasonharper 22:55, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
And the results from my last multi (never kept track of how many bits I expurgated on any character). Told to pick 6, got 10:
You acquire 3 mylar scout drones You acquire 2 tree-eating kites You acquire 2 fancy dress balls You acquire 3 buckyballs
--Flargen 22:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
On one account I was told to pick up 31 items and I got:
You acquire an item: dollhive You acquire an item: teddy bear You acquire 3 fancy dress balls You acquire 6 buckyballs You acquire 6 stuffed gray blobs You acquire 2 tops You acquire 4 kites You acquire an item: toy space helmet You acquire 2 tree-eating kites You acquire an item: ball You acquire 6 gyroscopes You acquire 9 stuffed alien blobs
On my other account I was told to pick up 25 and got:
You acquire an item: dollhive You acquire 9 possessed tops You acquire 6 fancy dress balls You acquire an item: toy train You acquire 2 kites You acquire an item: gyroscope You acquire an item: toy maglev monorail You acquire 3 stuffed gray blobs You acquire an item: yo-yo --Seko 23:05, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Told to pick 28, received 33:
- You acquire an item: doll house
- You acquire 2 buckyballs
- You acquire 4 stuffed doppelshifters
- You acquire 7 possessed tops
- You acquire 2 ducks-on-strings
- You acquire 6 balls
- You acquire 4 mylar scout drones
- You acquire an item: toy ray gun
- You acquire an item: fancy dress ball
- You acquire 2 tops
- You acquire 3 kites
No idea how many bits I expurgated. --Baltar 23:19, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Expurgated 24 parts, was told to pick (I believe) approximately 3. Got a disappointing 3 buckyballs and 3 gyroscopes. --Lordebon 23:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
I was told to pick "approximately 1" item and received 2 stuffed gray blobs. I think I expurgated 18 parts; my routine these past several days has been to forget to equip The Spirit of Crimbo 0-2 times, then to equip it and use it 3 times in a row. --Dkohler 23:44, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
On one character, I was told to pick 51 items, and another 2. From my recollection, this appears to be an approx 1:10 ratio vs the # of times I used the Spirit of Crimbo. I also received more items than I was told to get. Perhaps we are getting the contents of X sturdy/dusty crates - where X is the number you are told to pick? --Grimdel 00:11, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Speculation on the forums is that X is based on the number of bits you expurgated on the current ascension only. This could explain why WhiskeyJack, with 5000 total bits, only got 800-ish. Similarly for people saying they only got one when they expurgated several dozen times before ascending and only doing it a couple of times in the current run. Seems a little lame. I guess it prevents you from having a huge number of items to use at the start of a Bad Moon run or something. But they could have just put everything in a gift box to fix that. --Flargen 02:12, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
You acquire an item: evil teddy bear You acquire 9 stuffed gray blobs You acquire an item: tree-eating kite You acquire 4 stuffed doppelshifters You acquire 8 kites You acquire an item: vampire duck-on-a-string You acquire an item: possessed top You acquire an item: toy ray gun You acquire 2 fancy dress balls You acquire 2 tops You acquire 2 buckyballs
The penguin told me to grab around 27 items, and I recieved 32 total. I'm not entirely certain how many bits I expurgated, but I vaguely remember how high I got Spirit of Crimbo's mana cost each day.. Estimations here.
1st - 272MP - 55 uses 2nd - 230MP - 46 uses 3rd - 195MP - 39 uses 4th - 200MP - 40 uses 5th - 15MP - 3 uses 6th - 15MP - 3 uses
For a probably wildly inaccurate guesstimate of 186 Spirit of Crimbo chantings at the thing. *shrugs* I second the idea that some drops awarded, say, 1-3 of an item, while others were worth more than one drop. --Chompie 03:13, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I think the number of items is also tied specifically to the number of times you recited in one ascension. I ascended last week and got one item even though I spent quite a few adventures reciting against elves and crimboniation. - Snowlock
For data collection, I was told to grab 93 items, and actually got:
You reach into the crate and pull out some goodies at random: You acquire 3 dollhives You acquire 2 toothsome rocks You acquire an item: doll house You acquire an item: toy maglev monorail You acquire 2 toy mercenaries You acquire 6 stuffed doppelshifters You acquire 11 tops You acquire 5 stuffed gray blobs You acquire 9 mylar scout drones You acquire 8 kites You acquire 3 toy Reagans You acquire an item: razor-tipped yo-yo You acquire 5 gyroscopes You acquire 4 stuffed alien blobs You acquire 17 tree-eating kites You acquire 12 buckyballs You acquire 3 balls You acquire 2 possessed tops You acquire an item: monomolecular yo-yo You acquire an item: roboduck-on-a-string You acquire an item: toy crazy train You acquire 5 fancy dress balls You acquire an item: MagiMechTech NanoMechaMech
Which is 104 items. No idea how many bits expurgated, but I didn't ascend, and should have mafia logs; I'm hoping this stat just gets added to the quest log, if it doesn't in a couple days I'll parse the logs and add that info in. --Salien 08:20, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I spent 1888 advetures reciting and I was told to grab 282 items.--scheijan 09:17, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
i was spending about 3 adventures per day at crimbomination and penguin told that i can grab 3 items. this is what i got:
You acquire 3 possessed tops You acquire an item: ball
--Hrag 14:03, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- Based on this i speculate that you get a number of items that is average of pits of crimbomination expurgated per day --Hrag 14:06, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I was told to take 31, actually got 36. I did about fifty adventures on the first day and about thirty on subsequent ones. Flickgc 17:47, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay, it definitely does not have to do with the number of times Spirit of Crimbo was used during the current ascension. I was told 24, and got 29, but I ascended on the 2nd or so, and haven't used the Spirit since. All told, according to my KoLmafia logs, I used the spirit of Crimbo against the crimbomination 169 times, out of 183 encounters (seriously, 14 failures. Need to watch my MP better.) Anyway, 169/24 is just about 7- and WhiskeyJack's 5000, divided by 750, is 6.66- about the same area. Anyone else with absolute/hard figures? --Unnatural20 18:09, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I was told to take 300 items, I actually got 324, and spent 2009 turns on it.--Daultimate 03:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
item count
you usually get more items in total than grab that penguin says. i assume that 1 grab is in some cases 1 item and in some 1 or 2 items (distributed, let's say uniformly). Thus N grabs results in a bit more than N items. i would do some math when/if i have time --Hrag 20:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)