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I have a sneaking suspicion that the number of puddings you'd have to eat/defeat is somewhere around 240 -- note the pop culture reference in the article. --Teedz 22:10, 20 January 2008 (CST)


any info on whether this would be a single ascension or over multiple ones? --Warjunkie 02:30, 21 January 2008 (CST)

  • If it's consumption based, can probably be done over multiple ascensions. If it involves number of Black Puddings fought, most likely it needs to be done in the current run. If I had to place a bet, I'd imagine it's consumption based. --Shoptroll 12:25, 21 January 2008 (CST)

Who has this trophy? Is it possible that their favorite food will be black pudding if its consumption based (and they don't have the 420 herb brownies trophy)? --Plater (t|c) 12:47, 21 January 2008 (CST)

  • S3ren1ty has this trophy. His/her/its favorite food is the White Citadel burger. She/he/it also has the Best Meal of My Life Trophy. So probably you can get it by eating 60 or fewer black puddings. Or fighting some number less than that, probably not more than 20. Orbrisa 13:57, 21 January 2008 (CST)
  • Unfortunate, since the citadel burger, in my mind, is the greatest piece of food (eaten: "White Citadel burger -> 1,510") and doesn't really tell us anything, unless S3ren1ty would like to share how many puddings they have eaten?--Plater (t|c) 15:11, 21 January 2008 (CST)
  • since puddings autosell for 40 meat, 240 dollars worth of puddings at parity, would be six, but, since i've eaten 12 and no trophy, that's not it. --Evilkolbot 14:47, 21 January 2008 (CST)
    • although it might be hc pre-king... --Evilkolbot 14:49, 21 January 2008 (CST)
  • Since this trophy article (and presumably the trophy) popped up after Feast of Boris, could this be a 'single-sitting' consumption trophy? Like a series of small, disturbing, and occasionally violent wedding cakes? --JoetheRat 15:20, 22 January 2008 (CST)
What a joyfully grisly image! Eating 6 in a single day is possible with the stomach of steel... --Jonrock 18:42, 22 January 2008 (CST)
Agreed, I have a feeling that the capacity to eat six on Feast of Boris gives access to the trophy. --Teedz 08:07, 23 January 2008 (CST)
I'm guessing it would 6 (Feast of Boris or Stomach needed) or 7-10 (Feast of Boris needed). I'm ruling out 11 based on S3ren1ty not being Teetotaller. --JoetheRat 10:06, 23 January 2008 (CST)

I just ate 6 this morning (I'm a teetotaler), no trophy--The grexican 10:49, 25 January 2008 (CST)

It just struck me that the timing might be coincidental - more to the point, s3ren1ty may have eaten substantially more burgers than what was required. --JoetheRat 08:07, 3 February 2008 (CST)
Just to note to say that it's not for "buying" puddings in any way. Tried selling/buying for 240 meat in flea market, mall, and propose-trade. No luck --Bigcalm 12:00, 22 February 2008 (CST)

I think it's worth pointing out that the food and the monster have slightly different shapes, and the trophy is definitely the image of the monster, not the food.--Godica 14:24, 27 January 2008 (CST)

if this isn't a straight fight/eat x puddings, perhaps (considering the recent feast of borris)this is a trophy for fighting a certain number of puddings in one day --Warjunkie 20:13, 28 January 2008 (CST)

  • That would require good luck, in a very direct and personal fashion. I don't think any existing trophy actually REQUIRES luck. The demon summoning only needs you to be lucky once (and, actually, I believe the pie demon works so you can also just wait for the luck of randomly getting his name from incorrect summons), and the tiny plastic trophies are pretty much required to be obtained through a cooperative effort (or intense meat farming and mall playing). Could be the first, but I'm doubtful. --Flargen 20:17, 28 January 2008 (CST)
    • there are 2 i can think of that require luck already, the brass bowling trophy and let my bugbears go. and even if that weren't true, why wouldn't the devs create a trophy that works via a different mechanic than the rest? --Glitterboy
    • Just for reference, the odds of fighting 6 in one day after eating 6 (Teet) are 0.2%, after eating 10 (FoB) are 10%, and after eating 11 (FoB + Teet) are 15%. Low odds (although admittedly I'm assuming it would be 6), so I'm guessing that's not it. I'm guessing it's obtained by eating 240, which is really similar to the Bouquet of Hippies trophy, in that (not counting FoB) as a Teet BoH takes 42 days, and 240 puddings would take 40 days. --EEpiccolo 08:22, 30 January 2008 (CST)

Did you take into account the fact that fighting a pudding doesn't give any fullness?--Stannius 14:33, 30 January 2008 (CST)

  • Ah ha, no, I didn't realize that if you fought a monster that it didn't contribute to fullness. Also, since there were some questions on methodology on my talk page, let me state that I'm assuming a 35% chance of combat (from the Black pudding (food) page), and was calculating the probabilities using a Binomial Random Variable (so, I'm assuming combats are independent events). However, since combats don't contribute to fullness, it does complicate things a bit. Now you have to determine the probability of 6 successes before N failures (where N is 5 for normal, 6 for Teet, 10 for FoB, and 11 for FoB with Teet), instead of just 6 successes within N trials. I was never good with random processes, so I don't have time to figure it out right now, but I should be able to crank out some numbers later when I have more time, unless Flargen wants to do it first --EEpiccolo 09:33, 31 January 2008 (CST)
  • OK, I did over complicate it a bit. I just had to use the probability of getting N or more failures before getting 6 successes, so I just had to sum some Binomial Random Variables. Anyway, the revised probabilities of getting 6 combats in one day are: normal, 9.5%; Teet, 15%; normal FoB, 44%; Teet Fob, 51%. Now, considering that so many people are eating tons of pudding, due to these odds (if the assumptions are correct) I'm sure someone's gotten 6 combats in one day already, so that's probably not how the trophy is earned. --EEpiccolo 14:14, 31 January 2008 (CST)
    • Huh? Are you suggesting that fighting six in one day is how to get the trophy? Or do you mean "not how" instead of "now how"? I'm pretty sure I fought six today, but no trophy for me. (4 of ten turns of ode from last night were left after I finished eating. It is possible I accidentally adventured one round before eating, though.) --Club (#66669) (Talk) 16:17, 4 February 2008 (CST)
      • I meant "not" instead of "now" (typo). Fixed above. Sorry about that. --EEpiccolo 11:18, 7 February 2008 (CST)

I know this maybe way too simple and if I overstep ethical bounds, I do apologize, but has anyone considered actually just asking s3ren1ty how she got it? zanchvegas 15:47, 4 February 2008 (EST)

  • s3ren1ty was the original creator of this article. You can use the history to see what he/she wrote, which is thus: "This trophy is earned by Spending lots (how many?) of adventures eating (that is fighting) Black Puddings." "I'm not sure whether this trophy is given for fighting lots of Black Puddings, or eating lots of Black Puddings." --EEpiccolo 15:26, 4 February 2008 (CST)


Has anyone considered that this trophy may not be from black puddings? It has not yet been confirmed to be caused by pudding. There is a badmoon adventure from The Black Forest that has the same image and gives you a buff with the same image that may be a way of obtaining this trophy. Can anyone in bad moon test this? Here is the link to the effect A Potentially Offensive Reference Has Been Carefully Avoided Here Wilbemine 14:01, 3 April 2008 (CDT)

Fighting the Monsters

I was lucky enough this morning to get 7-fights with this monster before getting full and I did not get a trophy. I did check after 4, 5, and 6-fights just to make sure it was not state based and there were no trophies then either. It is looking like it likely an aggregate number of fights or total number of puddings eaten. zanchvegas 08:47, 5 February 2008 (EST)

  • did you get all seven fights in a row? --Evilkolbot 13:09, 5 February 2008 (CST)
    • No, the most I got in a row was 3-fights. So, good call. It could very well be a concurrence based trophy, though there isn't another one out there that I know of. It definitely only an assumption that it is likely aggregate fights or total consumption at this point.zanchvegas 16:09, 5 February 2008 (EST)
    • PatMcRotch fought 7 in a row and did not receive the option for the trophy. --Skin Deep 01:05, 7 February 2008 (CST)

I am currently fighting/eating as many black puddings as possible every day, and keeping track of how many are killed/consumed. It can be tricky because when you kill them they drop two more black puddings. I'll report back once I've reached 240. stonecat 08:20, 5 February 2008 (EST)

  • Since your consumption list keeps track of what you eat for you, focus on your kills. Since turns are only consumed (heh) when you fight, you can use one of your buffs to track your kill count for that 'meal'. Record and go on. --JoetheRat 09:41, 11 February 2008 (CST)
  • It is definitely not a combination of fight/consumption as I am now well above 240 combined. I'm at 174 now, so I should be at the trophy in 11 days(stomach of steel). --Franknbeans 13:18, 24 February 2008 (CST)
  • it's not eating 240. done that, no trophy. boo hoo. --Evilkolbot 01:55, 26 February 2008 (CST)
    • Do you think you ate all of those in a row? For instance, if one was a Teet, one would have 2F leftover each day. Of course, this would then imply in a new trophy mechanic.--terrabyte 09:17, 26 February 2008 (CST)
  • I can see this one either way. Platinum Skull used to require 'in-a-row' consumption, so it wouldn't be out of the question. Based on S3ren1ty's "current" count below, 240 puddings is spot on with the 35% encounter rate - but that would mean major encounter luck before then. Another possibility might not be eating or fighting 240, but getting 240 puddings drops - in other words, fighting 120 puddings. This would fit with another trophy mechanic, and have an ironic resonance with another trophy... --JoetheRat 12:09, 26 February 2008 (CST)
  • HCO forums are reporting 420 consumed getting the trophy. s3renity didn't say what the consumption total was when the trophy was handed out, only its then current value. i guess i just have to keep on eating. 420 seems ok, but 640 is a bit daunting. i'll report back with the trophy maker text when (if) i get there. --Evilkolbot 12:18, 26 February 2008 (CST)
    • Wait, 420? How do you get 420 from $240? 480 might make sense if pudding is considered to be $0.50 apiece, but that's still a lot more time than the hippy trophy requires. Also, I just read the discussions in question and I'm not seeing any actual mentions of MoxFulder having eaten 420 puddings to get the trophy. Perhaps some other context is needed. --Quietust (t|c) 12:30, 26 February 2008 (CST)
    • i'm quoting this post, which says "MoxFulder, at least, had to eat more than 420 puddings for the trophy." which was all the info i had. 420 not because is was logical, just a random minimum number. which, if it's a fighting thing, would be sensible. and, you could get this trophy in a single day. --Evilkolbot 14:33, 26 February 2008 (CST)
    • that leader board shows someone with 480 even having the trophy. That would lend credibility to the .50cents a box thing?--Plater (t|c) 14:57, 26 February 2008 (CST)
    • I tryed tracking the puddings with trascendental olfaction. Eat/Track/Combat: E(CT)ECCECCCECE, small data, but I hope that it is not luck only... --kaiou 12:15, 29 February 2008 (CST)
  • Does anyone know if anything affects the frequency of fights? For me, pudding fights seem to come in waves. One week, I'll get maybe three while another week I'll get a crapload. Why, just yesterday I had eight (I'm in one of those heavy weeks). I noticed that there's been very little moonlight lately. Yesterday, there was 2 moonlight when I got the eight. Today there is 1 moonlight and I got 5 fights. So I though maybe fight frequency was tied in with the moons, possibly in different ways for different characters. Perhaps some folks get more with more light and some get more with less light? Has anyone else noticed anything like this? Does anyone else even get growing and ebbing waves of pudding fights? In any case, I'm going to try keeping track of my daily number of fights in accordance with moonlight and hopefully I'll have some results to report back.--Stevenskistg 17:00, 3 April 2008 (CDT)


Possible Nethack Reference

[1]

I am thinking corroded weapon and/or Iron Pasta Spoon when fighting the pudding? Considering all of the Nethack references in the game already this might be a logical path to spade out.


--Maikeruu 09:28, 3 February 2008 (CST)

  • Tried the iron pasta spoon; no dice. Crystallina 10:47, 3 February 2008 (CST)

How many did I eat?

Hey all, Sorry for the delay in replying - I don't usually follow the WIKI talk pages .. RE: how many pudding I ate, my current count is 685 (I'm working on making it my favorite food), so I don't know exactly when or how I earned the trophy - whether it's related to eating lots of puddings or fighting lots of puddings .. --S3ren1ty 04:58, 5 February 2008 (EST)


Leaderboard

2008 Feb 26: black pudding consumption leaderboard

Player Eaten Has Trophy?
S3ren1ty 745 yes
Lady Turmeric 532 yes
Mr Magnifico 519 no
P4UL 514 yes
Armak 511 yes
Mrs A 504 yes
Lukifer 503 no
karl dark 489 yes
MoxFulder 487 yes
MeGrimlock 480 yes

All these people have it and no one's able to give better evidence? --Plater (t|c) 14:04, 26 February 2008 (CST)

  • perhaps we should ask them. it's a bit suspicious that all these power players should begin to do the same nonsense thing at once. tipping off seems likely. did i miss something in a radio show? --Evilkolbot 14:38, 26 February 2008 (CST)
    • Devs knew about the trophy for a while. Jick was fine with them working towards the trophy before anyone else knew it existed, as long as the devs made sure black puddings never became their favourite food. Darthdud posted a chat log with a dev containing this info...not sure where I saw it.--QuantumNightmare 19:59, 26 February 2008 (CST)
      • I saw it prominently linked in the above link by EvilKolBot. Here is a direct link. --Terrabyte 08:33, 27 February 2008 (CST)

It's not 240 puddings?

I just consumed 240 black puddings on one character(lifetime, but it's all in the current ascension). My Multi's char name is NothingRhymesWithOrange. Yet no trophy at the hut. --FrankNBeans 14:58, 7 March 2008 (CST)

  • nope, it's not. :( looks like it's fighting 240, which, given the prevalence of zero fights per day, is going to take forever... --Evilkolbot 16:36, 7 March 2008 (CST)
    • For the curious, the probability of having fought 240 puddings is about 83.6% by the time you've (successfully) consumed 480 of them (the amount MeGrimlock had consumed when he appeared on the leaderboard). The chance of 240 fights first exceeds 50% by the time you've consumed 445 of them. These numbers are using the cummulative probabilities of the negative binomial distribution, assuming a 35% chance of a fight. It would take 89 days to eat 445 puddings without stomach of steel (and assuming no boris); 96 days for 480 with no stomach and no boris. With stomach and no boris, it takes 75 and 80 days respectively. A feast of boris just lets you eat another 5 in a day, making at most a 1 day difference. --Flargen 17:04, 7 March 2008 (CST)

Multi-Ascension?

Just wondering if anyone can confirm this is either multi-ascencion or not. I've eaten 170ish, and am just about to finish a level 30 run and basement diving... I'd really really hate to throw that all away, but also do not want to sit around doing nothing but eating black puddings forever... --Saucalicious 01:05, 16 March 2008 (CDT)

  • the post on the AFH forums suggests that the counter is not reset by ascension. quote: "[16:40] MoxFulder: appreciated out of rl time constraints. I realize I'll have the trophy earlier than non-dev people, but I haven't profitated from puddings in the mall, and am slow enough in ascending that all who cared could overtake me in trophies, too - even when I'll add this one" --Evilkolbot 07:34, 27 March 2008 (CDT)
  • ok, so on reflection that doesn't really say anything about ascension and this trophy no matter how much you could read it as doing. i checked out the people on the list above. MoxFulder has no long enough ascensions. he's been doing month-long casuals for half a year now. he could have been mildly blessed by the rng over fight frequency and got the trophy in september, or he, as a dev, has some way of affecting the fight frequency a lot of which we mere mortals are unaware. either way seems unlikely. this evidence, deeply flawed as it is, suggests strongly that fight totals carry over between ascensions. --Evilkolbot 08:30, 29 March 2008 (CDT)
    • "mildly blessed by the rng over fight frequency"? I'd say that that's pretty conclusive that it carries over. to kill 240 puddings in a month-long ascension would mean he'd have to fight EIGHT puddings a day, every day. That's not a mild blessing. That's the equivalent of getting favors in return for screwing the director.--Stevenskistg 17:00, 3 April 2008 (CDT)


Fight Frequency Modification

This mechanic is very similar to the cursed pieces, so I wonder if "curse magnet" affects the fights. I'm guessing that +combat buffs do nothing, but I'll try to get some spading in after my hardcore run. --The Pretender 18:39, 8 April 2009 (EST)

Has there been any progress towards this in the last three weeks? Seems like it would greatly accelerate trophy gaining attempts if you could modify this somehow. For my part, I can assure you that +combat effects (Musk, Cantata) do nothing. --Istanbul 00:07, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

While running cod cape, Dungeon Fist gauntlet, monster bait, HOA zombie eyes, Musk of the Moose, and Carlweather (with -10% from Silent Running and Sono nono combat, I fought 4 puddings in 8, whereas I'd normally only find 2 in 8. If I did push it into a 60% ratio, we may have a way to make it faster... --The ErosionSeeker (talk) 15:22, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

  • This is an extremely low data sample. This appears to just be good RNG. We'll need more data to confirm. — Cool12309 (talk) 20:56, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
  • I did the same thing today, and got 7 pudding fights and 6 consumed. Will test further (or at least until I get the trophy)--The ErosionSeeker (talk) 18:07, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Confirmation

My multi was just offered the trophy today, the description of the trophy makes it pretty clear that you have to fight 240 black puddings: [2]

I haven't purchased the trophy as I was going to ascend and see if the trophy was still available. --Franknbeans 09:43, 7 April 2008 (CDT)

The trophy is definitely available after ascention. The pudding combat counter is per character, not per ascention(thank Jick!). [3] --FrankNBeans 11:54, 8 April 2008 (CDT)

  • How many puddings have you eaten? Did you find anything that increases the percentage of fights per attempted consumption? --ElroyJetson 18:30, 15 April 2008 (CDT)
  • patience, persistence, and a lot of zero fight days. got two fights straight off today but didn't check the trophy hut until i'd eaten ten straight puddings with no fights. ten straight! if it's a flat 35% that's fairly unliklely (~1/36000). so, current puudding total 528, but i got it at 518. --Evilkolbot 06:46, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
  • Got mine today after 454 puddings.--Landar 11:19, 26 April 2008 (CDT)
  • Got mine today after eating 485 puddings. I would have had it a bit sooner, but had my combat set wrong, and actually had one fight go 30 rounds. So it's not just fight 240 puddings, but DEFEAT 240 puddings; a subtle, yet important difference. On another note, I managed to get 12 fights right near the end. Possible it might have been moon related, but I'd have to go through my logs. --Stanley 08:32, 24 June 2008 (CDT)
    • Just got mine after 9(!!!) fights today. I would say combat frequency goes way up near the end of it. Finished with 473 consumed puddings. --Plater (t|c) 10:07, 2 July 2008 (CDT)
  • I just got mine; 463 puddings consumed (34.2% of puddings fought me)--Mailbox head 13:49, 27 June 2008 (CDT)
  • At last...435 puddings eaten, and I have my trophy. I didn't notice any particular ramping up towards the end (and yes, I tracked day-to-day), but I DID notice that apparently, the game DOES include pudding fights that took place before the trophy was implemented.--Istanbul 10:02, 6 July 2008 (CDT)
  • Got mine at 473 black puddings consumed. --CharlesMartel 01:55, 9 July 2008 (CDT)


  • 486 puddings.--Toffile 04:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
  • A very unlucky 531. Also, I've been daily recording my pudding battles:

First number = day, second number = fights I, well, fought. This was done across multiple ascensions.

1 3 ; 2 3 ; 3 0 ; 4 4 ; 5 3 ; 6 0 ; 7 6 ; 8 2 ; 9 1 ; 10 0 ; 11 6 ; 12 3 ; 13 1 ; 14 1 ; 15 3 ; 16 9 ; 17 1 ; 18 2 ; 19 2 ; 20 1 ; 21 7 ; 22 3 ; 23 4 ; 24 3 ; 25 5 ; 26 1 ; 27 2 ; 28 6 ; 29 5 ; 30 0 ; 31 4 ; 32 1 ; 33 7 ; 34 3 ; 35 1 ; 36 1 ; 37 2 ; 38 3 ; 39 1 ; 40 4 ; 41 6 ; 42 4 ; 43 0 ; 44 1 ; 45 4 ; 46 2 ; 47 2 ; 48 1 ; 49 0 ; 50 3 ; 51 3 ; 52 1 ; 53 3 ; 54 2 ; 55 0 ; 56 1 ; 57 4 ; 58 5 ; 59 4 ; 60 0 ; 61 4 ; 62 1 ; 63 1 ; 64 4 ; 65 7 ; 66 2 ; 67 3 ; 68 3 ; 69 3 ; 70 3 ; 71 3 ; 72 2 ; 73 2 ; 74 3 ; 75 5 ; 76 1 ; 77 4 ; 78 10 ; 79 1 ; 80 3 ; 81 2 ; 83 3 ; 84 0 ; 85 0 ; 86 2 ; 87 4 ; 88 3

I sporadically did +combats just to try some half-assed spading on that possibility. I think it was around day 10 to 14 I started doing +combats, then as copied from my notes: (day) 57 on I had musk and got +25% combats from around day 63 or so stopped using +combats, then started again on the 74th also on final day didn't bother to do +combats (and only had to eat 3 puddings to get that many; fought two, ate two, fought 1 more).

Feel free to non-uglify that with a fancy table of sorts; my wiki-fu-pops are weak. --TW 11:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

I think I've got you all beat. I'm at 534, still no trophy. Not really urgent information; just kinda throwing a bigger number out there to give hope to people who are trying for it. I was keeping track of fights in the beginning, but after a couple HC runs I forgot a few days and wound up just giving up. But the Feast Of Boris is coming up in three days, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed!--Brightbutt The Defenestrator 11:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

  • 561 eaten puddings and the nightmare is over. --Karneval 19:22, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

absolutes

  • since things have moved on, perhaps the advice on how to get this as fast as possible should be changed to:
    • Do multiple one-day casuals as teet on the Feast of Boris. Using Mayodiol and all the fullness modifiers, this should "only" require 23 ascensions.
  • i calculate:
    • 15 fullness
    • 5 stomach
    • 15 FOB
    • 10 modifiers
  • this gives you 45 fullness or 15 puddings
  • with mayodiol this gives you an extra 15 fullness or 5 puddings (you can fight the last one(s) drunk if necessary.)
  • of course, you can also do this over multiple days as out-of-ronin Boris.
  • what did i miss? --Evilkolbot (talk) 12:31, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
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