Talk:Snow Queen

She can definitely still hit with the cold attack with a Moxie of 416. --Verfanor 00:48, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

Mine's 555 buffed, 612 unbuffed (don't ask why) and she still hits me for 14-16 cold damage each time.--Thekmt 01:20, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

• Hmmph turns out its the critical hit. All critical hits by them damage us.--Thekmt 01:33, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

• It seems that the rough justice attack is a critical hit one. Every time I get hit at +200 moxie seems to be that. I think it's because of the new critical hits which force a hit. --Kenny 14:25, 31 August 2006 (CDT)

Anyone else get that Brrrrrrrrrrr is supposed to be link? I got:

She delivers some rough justice upon you. This particular brand of justice is delivered by way of eye-freezing.Brrrrrrrrrrr. Brrrrrrrrrrr." TARGET="_blank">w

with a bunch of funky superscript, underlining and bold effects on the last "Brrrrrrrrrrr." TARGET="_blank">w". May just be because I'm overusing scripts though. --Ryo Sangnoir 03:52, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

• Sounds like the wikilink script. Turn it off and check again. --Fryguy9 10:22, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

Magic missile seems to have no effect (although it still says you hit for 5d4+4 damage). Chronic indigestion works very well though. --Wintergreen

I hit a moxie of 120 and she's hitting me far less than what she use to at 116. I just now noticed it, that, and the avalanche's elevated my Moxie significantly between the battles I had with her. --ForeStorm 14:40, 5 October 2006 (CDT)

Brrrrrrrrrrr length

Is the "Brrrrrrrrrrr" always the same length, or does it vary depending on how much damage you take? --Quietust 09:58, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

• Took 17 HP damage and got "Brrrrrrrrrrrrr." --Quietust 00:43, 4 September 2006 (CDT)
• Took 13 HP damage and got "Brrrrrrrrrrr." It would appear to be related to how much damage you take, though the formula isn't evident. --Quietust 17:09, 4 September 2006 (CDT)

Item Drops

I've beaten the queen about 50 times now and I have yet to recieve any item from beating her, not even meat.--Terrabull 12:39, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

She doesn't drop meat at all. Her rate of dropping items seems to be fairly low as well; with a 35 pound Coffee Pixie, Mad Looting Skillz, Powers of Observatiogn, a lucky rabbit's foot, a duck-on-a-string, and a miner's helmet, I recieved approximately one item from her every third adventure. I don't have any specifics, however, as I really wasn't collecting data. I'd estimate the drop rate probably to be about 30%, however, with the turkish delight dropping a bit more frequently than either the crown or the radio. --Aardvark (Talk | Contribs) 20:37, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

The Turkish Delight drop references C.S. Lewis' book The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.

• BUT HOW DOES IT? Without an explanation how can one assume Turkish Delight means anything but just Turkish Delight? --JRSiebz (☎|§|‡) 20:52, 30 August 2006 (CDT)
  • I see the reference because the "Snow" Queen gives Edmund Turkish Delights in the book, just as this Snow Queen drops them. --Icecube 23:58, 30 August 2006 (CDT)
    • In both the book and the movie, Turkish Delights are what the Ice Queen (Snow Queen) gives Edmund to seduce him to betray his friends. She uses some sort of magic liquid in the movie (i think so too in the book, not sure) to create them, and Edmund at one point complains that they're too small and there's not enough of them. Definitely a reference. I put it back in.--Shokwave 01:56, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
      • Yes, it's a liquid for both the Turkish Delight, and the (unnamed) drink; it transofrms the snow itself into said items. And yes, having a "snow queen" drop "turkish delight" is so BLINDINGLY-obviously a Narnia reference it's not even remotely funny. --Bork 13:18, 3 September 2006 (CDT)

Starfish

Will the starfish yield normal MP if you are in an elemental form that damages the queen (i.e. any other than coldform)?--Volante 22:58, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

• Yes.--Dehstil (t|c) 18:19, 31 August 2006 (CDT)

Critical

Which one is her critical? >_> --Icecube 14:22, 31 August 2006 (CDT)

HP

The Snow Queen has somewhere between 60 and 70 HP. I used snow queen crown and ninja hot pants with my regular attack to do 1(+8)(+1) dmg each hit. --Rbandboy1

• • EDIT** She has 68-70 hp (Used Disco Eye-Poke to do 1 damage to her at a time.) I might have gotten inaccurate readings, however.

The Snow Queen definitely has less than 80 HP. I consistently defeat her is five hits with potato pistol + flaming talons, doing 1(+10)(+5) damage per hit. --Emtu

From my testing, she consistently has 70 HP. --Psynn 12:31, 3 September 2006 (CDT)

• If you enable the Snarl of the Timberwolf, equip Flaming talons as an offhand item, use some stench nuggets and equip an asparagus knife, that should deal 1(+10)(+4)(+20) damage for a total of 35. If that kills her consistently within two rounds, then that should show her health has a cap of 70. Then, if you do the same without the Stinky Weapon but with the Dirty hobo gloves on instead, that should be dealing 34 per round. If she always survives two rounds of that but not that 35, then that show that she has 70 hit points. Or possibly 69, dude.

And if my maths is a little off, please humour me, I'm sick. --Slavedriver 10:16, 8 October 2006 (CDT)

Statistics

Era	Date	Encountered	crazy little Turkish delight	ga-ga radio	Snow Queen Crown	Information	Source
Era 1	04-Sept-06	978	313	54	55	Item Drop Bonus: +20%	Yiab
	04-Sept-06	277	92	18	19	Item Drop Bonus: +40%	Yiab
	04-Sept-06	275	104	17	20	Item Drop Bonus: +50%	Yiab

Strategy page for hitting physically resistant monsters?

I would like to see a page dedicated to how you beat physical resist monsters. This would include the snow queen as well as chalk wraiths and I guess a bunch of monsters in the Cobb mines, although I don't know which ones because I almost never go in there. If such a page exists, could somebody point it out to me? If not, can we create one and make sure that all physical resist monster pages link to it?

The way I understand it, strategies include:

1. Chronic indigestion: works great but only if you are allowed to eat. Boozetafarians and oxygenarians can only do it if they memorize this spell but then its effectiveness is greatly reduced due to zero fullness.
2. Spell slinging. This is good but takes a lot of permed skills to pull off effectively, as you need to control your damage type (since cold spells also do 1 damage to queen) and optionally boost your damage output.
3. Load up on equipment that gives +elemental damage of some sort. Low damage and hard to pull off in hardcore, but perhaps necessary for muscle and moxie classes.

I think such a page ought to link to Bonus Spell Damage and perhaps give an abridged version of the Bonus Melee Damage table that lists only those skills which give elemental damage. Kazim 10:30, 4 January 2007 (CST)

• I suggest as page dedicated to physically resistant monsters (not just strategy): a list of all said monsters, how they work/what they are, and how to defeat them.--Dehstil (t|c) 21:44, 4 January 2007 (CST)

• Do I need somebody's blessing to start this page? I'd certainly be happy to to do it. I propose the title Physical Resistance as a complement to the Elemental Resistance page. Resistance should no longer be a redirect but a disambiguation page. Does anyone object? --Kazim 09:49, 5 January 2007 (CST)

• FYI, I have create a temporary page in my sandbox. Feel free to check it out and critique it, or tell me when I should go ahead and post it. --Kazim 17:09, 5 January 2007 (CST)

• Looks ok, could use a little cleaning up. As long as it's well-written and relevant to KoL, I see no reason to stop said page from being created. (Pages about yourself or your clan are generally the ones we delete.)--Dehstil (t|c) 18:25, 5 January 2007 (CST)

• I'm not sure she's physically resistant any more. (Jan 9, 2008) I have a silver shrimp fork equipped and "auto attack with weapon" on and when I hit her got this message "You cook up some pain for your opponent. 198 damage worth, to be exact. BOOF!... etc." User:watermoon 12:15 (PST)
  • According to the ghost miner page there is a break in the fight code currently that is making all physically resistant monster not physically resistant. --Chunky_boo 15:04, 9 January 2008 (CST)