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*A safe and reasonable way of dealing with most dinosaur types is by using an attack familiar, as this bypasses things like forced misses by the [[high-altitude pterodactyl]] or reflection damage from a [[spikolodon]] or [[glass-shelled archelon]]. Familiars with multiple elemental damage types are highly recommended.
*A safe and reasonable way of dealing with most dinosaur types is by using an attack familiar, as this bypasses things like forced misses by the [[high-altitude pterodactyl]] or reflection damage from a [[spikolodon]] or [[glass-shelled archelon]]. Familiars with multiple elemental damage types are highly recommended.
*Levelling can be harder due to the decreased stat gain from monsters. Consider using edibles instead -- for example, [[dieting pill]] + [[Ready to Eat]] + [[guilty sprout]] gives ~2500 to all stats for 2 fullness.
*Levelling can be harder due to the decreased stat gain from monsters. Consider using edibles instead -- for example, [[dieting pill]] + [[Ready to Eat]] + [[guilty sprout]] gives ~2500 to all stats for 2 fullness.
*There are 3 ways to get {{plural|Dinodollar}} that you may want to save for a [[stuffed dinosaur]] and/or spend on useful in-run items:
 
**Adventuring in specific locations for [[The Owner‎‎]]. This looks like a very bad idea for a speedrun as most of the locations aren't useful otherwise, similarly to getting skills on a [[Journeyman]] run, and you cannot even choose or reroll the location. However, the counter ''is'' decremented by things like the [[June cleaver|Strange Daydreams]]. If you can predict them (which will likely require [[Tools#KoLmafia|KoLmafia]] and the [https://github.com/Loathing-Associates-Scripting-Society/TourGuide TourGuide script]), you can get free {{plural|Dinodollar}} from [[The Owner]].
===Specific quests===
**Wearing an [[awkward dinosaur research harness]] during fights for [[The Chaosthetician]]. This is simple and even provides +10 to Monster Level in a back slot, but makes fights harder and, as an additional problem, makes velociraptors more likely to run away due to the significant init penalty. Note that it requires manual unloading of research points every time it's full.
**Passively collecting trophies for [[The Game Warden]]. This doesn't require anything but the progress can be blocked if you don't have enough trophies of a certain type.
*Some spending tips:
**The [[birdseed hat]] is useful for [[tower killing]], getting [[Blech House]], and avoiding hard fights where you don't care about the stat gain or meat.
**[[Dino DNAde™]] is a cheap and powerful stat boost.
**The [[dinosaur repellent]] is a free run which is very useful for certain strategies.
**The [[pterodactyl rifle]] is in no way required as pterodactyls can be killed with spells (and it costs as much as 13 {{plural|dinosaur dart}}).
**Similarly, the [[flatusaur gasmask]] is not required to survive and defeat flatusaurs.
*Some quests with changes or different strategies:
*Some quests with changes or different strategies:
**All:
**All:
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**Apart from potentially useful [[reflective vest]] and [[camouflage vest]], an obvious target is a bunch of [[Dino DNAde™]].
**Apart from potentially useful [[reflective vest]] and [[camouflage vest]], an obvious target is a bunch of [[Dino DNAde™]].


===IotM Seeds===
===Shopping and Souveniers===
 
*There are 3 ways to get {{plural|Dinodollar}} that you may want to save for a [[stuffed dinosaur]] and/or spend on useful in-run items:
**Adventuring in specific locations for [[The Owner‎‎]]. This looks like a very bad idea for a speedrun as most of the locations aren't useful otherwise, similarly to getting skills on a [[Journeyman]] run, and you cannot even choose or reroll the location. (However, see below.)
**Wearing an [[awkward dinosaur research harness]] during fights for [[The Chaosthetician]]. This is simple and even provides +10 to Monster Level in a back slot, but makes fights harder and, as an additional problem, makes velociraptors more likely to run away due to the significant init penalty. Note that it requires manual unloading of research points every time it's full.
**Passively collecting trophies for [[The Game Warden]]. This doesn't require anything but the progress can be blocked if you don't have enough trophies of a certain type.
*Some spending tips:
**The [[birdseed hat]] is useful for [[tower killing]], getting [[Blech House]], and avoiding hard fights where you don't care about the stat gain or meat.
**[[Dino DNAde™]] is a cheap and powerful stat boost.
**The [[dinosaur repellent]] is a free run which is very useful for certain strategies.
**The [[pterodactyl rifle]] is in no way required as pterodactyls can be killed with spells (and it costs as much as 13 {{plural|dinosaur dart}}).
**Similarly, the [[flatusaur gasmask]] is not required to survive and defeat flatusaurs.
 
===IotM Seeds, Strategy and Synergy===


* There are several Items-of-the-Month that provide bonuses in a certain, non-random order. The details can be found [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nK0J4x4DbXdD1hpecfh9HlAxFVbTWsI_rNAuJfcPt6s/edit#gid=0 in this spreadsheet].
* The following [[Mr._Store#Monthly_Offerings|Items of the Month]] (and derived skills, items, etc.) have special functionality or otherwise noteworthy uses in this path:
** Most of these bonuses are highly marginal, and are only relevant during high-power runs that try for every possible advantage.
** The [[Jurassic Parka]] has an additional functionality in this path: [[Engage ultra-attractive parka mode]]. This lets you force specific dinosaurs for 3 encounters, which means [[ Supersonic velociraptor|+200%]]/[[ High-altitude pterodactyl|+100%]]/[[Spikolodon|+50%]] item drops or [[Kachungasaur|tripled meat drops]].
** [[Map the Monsters]], [[Back-Up to your Last Enemy]] and [[combat lover's locket]] offer ways to fight specific monsters. They function as expected, despite the path's divergences (see above).
** The [[miniature crystal ball]] also functions as expected.
** [[June cleaver]]: The [[June cleaver|Strange Daydreams]] can be used to advance the countdown on [[The Owner]]'s quests. That is to say, they don't cost a turn, but they do count towards [[Droppings, Sweet Droppings]]. If you can predict them (which will likely require [[Tools#KoLmafia|KoLmafia]] and the [https://github.com/Loathing-Associates-Scripting-Society/TourGuide TourGuide script]), you can get free {{plural|Dinodollar}}.


* Here are some relevant items that might come in handy around the margins, if you're trying for a leaderboard-worthy run:
* There are several Items-of-the-Month that provide bonuses in a certain, non-random order. The details can be found [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nK0J4x4DbXdD1hpecfh9HlAxFVbTWsI_rNAuJfcPt6s/edit#gid=0 in this spreadsheet]. Here are some relevant items that might come in handy around the margins, if you're trying for a leaderboard-worthy run:
** [[Our Daily Candles™ order form]]: Seal Clubbers  get a [[Salsa Caliente™ candle]] on day 1 and day 2. Turtle Tamers get a [[Scent of a Human™ candle]] on day 1, Pastamancers on day 3. Disco Bandits receive a [[Napalm In The Morning™ candle]] on day 1. Accordion Thieves and Pastamancers receive a [[Smoldering Clover™ candle]] on day 1 and day 2 respectively.
** [[Our Daily Candles™ order form]]: Seal Clubbers  get a [[Salsa Caliente™ candle]] on day 1 and day 2. Turtle Tamers get a [[Scent of a Human™ candle]] on day 1, Pastamancers on day 3. Disco Bandits receive a [[Napalm In The Morning™ candle]] on day 1. Accordion Thieves and Pastamancers receive a [[Smoldering Clover™ candle]] on day 1 and day 2 respectively.
** [[MayDay™ contract]]: Pastamancers get a [[survival knife]] on day 1, Turtle Tamers on day 2, and Saucerors on day 3.
** [[MayDay™ contract]]: Pastamancers get a [[survival knife]] on day 1, Turtle Tamers on day 2, and Saucerors on day 3.

Revision as of 12:59, 3 September 2022

Fall of the Dinosaurs is the Fall 2022 special challenge path, introduced on August 15th, 2022. This path adds variant rules and restrictions to an ascension run. Its description in The Bureau of Reincarnation reads "There's been a theme park accident, and dinosaurs have eaten all of the monsters in the Kingdom!"


Restrictions

  • You cannot enter The Sea:

    That shack you saw on the main map was just a picture of a shack drawn on the ground.

Divergences

  • These are named "<dinosaur species> that <consumed> a <monster name>."
  • This includes fights from any locations and sources, e.g. A Maze of Sewer Tunnels, Reminiscing About Those Monsters You Fought or The Naughty Sorceress' Tower.
  • There are 9 types of dinosaurs with different stats and special properties, and a type that is chosen for a given combat is perceived to be random.
  • Because dinosaurs are "fake monsters" and are effectively very sophisticated Monster Modifiers, combat properties such as monster drops are sourced from the original monster rather than the dinosaur that ate it. Additionally, monster-specific interactions with skills and combat items remain as normal. Others, like monster stats, are adjusted by the specific dino type.
  • Most of the bosses are instead replaced by unique boss dinosaurs.

Dino World

Dinosaurs

  • primitive chicken: Has 1 in all stats, can be forced by birdseed hat, does not drop any meat.
  • glass-shelled archelon: Reflects spells.
  • ghostasaurus: Only takes 1 dmg from physical sources. Only present in indoors and underground zones.
  • (element) flatusaurus: Deals increasingly-large amounts of the related element damage, which can be stopped with flatusaur gasmask. Has much more HP than the base monster.
  • spikolodon: Does stinging damage on melee attacks, gives +50% item drops from the monster.
  • high-altitude pterodactyl: Attacks with a weapon miss, gives +100% item drops from the monster, can be one-shot with a skill from pterodactyl rifle. Only present in outdoors zones.
  • supersonic velociraptor: Runs away on its first combat action, making you "win" the combat but gives no stats or drops (you need to get the jump and one-shot or stun it to get drops normally), gives +200% item drops from the monster. Note that special items like the bottle of Chateau de Vinegar can still drop even if the velociraptor runs away.
  • kachungasaur: Triples the eaten monster's base Meat drop. Initially also tripled its stats, but does not currently do so.
  • (element) dilophosaur: Attacks always hit.

Flatusauruses and dilophosaurs normally only replace elemental-aligned monsters (other dinos can replace them too), including bad spelling ones.

In addition to the chicken-specific birdseed hat, dinosaur repellent banishes a specific dino type until the end of the day (or until another is banished) and dinosaur pheromone kit attracts one for 19 adventures.

Dinosaurs are wishable and have their own factoids (you cannot get these factoids from fighting dinos in the challenge path the normal way). The dinosaur you fight will have an empty stomach.

Bosses

Lesser bosses are eaten by random normal dinosaurs, other Uncopyable monsters cannot be eaten by supersonic velociraptors.

You do not get mind control drops, except for Baron von Ratsworth.

Strategy

General

  • Additional caution is needed when using autoattack macros or scripts, as any monster can be replaced by a dinosaur that reflects spells, is immune to weapon attacks or is immune to physical damage.
  • While the combat is harder, especially with the awkward dinosaur research harness‎‎ equipped, Dino DNAde™ can provide a large buff to stats for a low price (one finished quest can buy 300 turns worth of it).
  • You can also banish a dinosaur type you have problems with, and in the worst case you can always fight chickens using the birdseed hat at the cost of lower experience gain.
  • A safe and reasonable way of dealing with most dinosaur types is by using an attack familiar, as this bypasses things like forced misses by the high-altitude pterodactyl or reflection damage from a spikolodon or glass-shelled archelon. Familiars with multiple elemental damage types are highly recommended.
  • Levelling can be harder due to the decreased stat gain from monsters. Consider using edibles instead -- for example, dieting pill + Ready to Eat + guilty sprout gives ~2500 to all stats for 2 fullness.

Specific quests

Shopping and Souveniers

  • There are 3 ways to get Dinodollars that you may want to save for a stuffed dinosaur and/or spend on useful in-run items:
    • Adventuring in specific locations for The Owner‎‎. This looks like a very bad idea for a speedrun as most of the locations aren't useful otherwise, similarly to getting skills on a Journeyman run, and you cannot even choose or reroll the location. (However, see below.)
    • Wearing an awkward dinosaur research harness during fights for The Chaosthetician. This is simple and even provides +10 to Monster Level in a back slot, but makes fights harder and, as an additional problem, makes velociraptors more likely to run away due to the significant init penalty. Note that it requires manual unloading of research points every time it's full.
    • Passively collecting trophies for The Game Warden. This doesn't require anything but the progress can be blocked if you don't have enough trophies of a certain type.
  • Some spending tips:

IotM Seeds, Strategy and Synergy

Aftercore

Text

See The Council of Loathing/Fall of the Dinosaurs

Rewards

  • Finishing a Fall of the Dinosaurs run while it is the current special challenge path -- between August 15th, 2022, (and November 14, 2022????) -- gives players 50 (in Normal) or 100 (in Hardcore) extra karma points the next time they visit Valhalla.
  • Players will receive a Thwaitgold mosquito-in-amber statuette upon defeating the Naughty Saursaurus.
  • Players in Hardcore gain the stainless steel equipment for their class.

Notes

References

  • Basically everything in this path is some kind of reference to the classic American science fiction media franchise known as Jurassic Park. See the individual pages for details.
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Special Challenge Paths
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2011
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2012
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Zombie Slayer

Class Act
2013
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BIG!

KOLHS

Class Act II: A Class For Pigs
2014
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Heavy Rains

Picky
2015
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2016
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The Source

Nuclear Autumn

None
2017
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License to Adventure

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2018
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G-Lover

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2019
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Kingdom of Exploathing

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2020
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Low Key Summer

Grey Goo

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2021
You, Robot

Quantum Terrarium

Wildfire

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2022
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Fall of the Dinosaurs

None
2023
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Legacy of Loathing

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2024
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11 Things I Hate About U

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2025
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